I noticed that this Christian web site basically says what is good and what is bad for Christian families. Now my question is: what about the people doing the reviews for these games? They evidently have to be Christian in order to write a proper review for it, but at the same time, it’s bad that they are playing them, thus making them non-Christians. Talk amonst yourselves.
As for myself, I used to be Lutheran. I say used to because my first 8 years of schooling was in a private school. No uniforms, not neccessarily strict, just had to goto church often. But when I moved to Texas and attended a public school, my views changed dramatically. I stirred away from religion all together because I found it very cumbersome. I didn’t like the idea that I had to live my life by certain rules just because an old book said I should. Now I’m not saying it’s wrong, They are extreemly good ethics to live by. I just don’t understand the whole faith thing. I require physical proof of the things said in the bible, mainly God. I think on a more logical scale rather then religious. If I were to call myself anything, it’d be agnostic, the idea that we don’t know if there is one, however we don’t know if there isn’t, so why argue.
the idea that we don’t know if there is one, however we don’t know if there isn’t, so why argue.
It’s sorta like the whole story thingo that follows:
Chris: So, Jim, would you say that you know everything there is to know in the world?
Jim: Are you nuts? no.
Chris: how about 75%?
Jim: heck no.
Chis: what about 50%?
Jim: Dude, a person can’t even know 1% of 1% of everything that goes on
Chris: Well let’s say that you DO know 50% of everything there is to know.
Jim: umm, 'kay.
Chris: Isn’t it possible that God/proof of God exists within the 50% you don’t know?
I thought that was pretty cool when I heard it… so umm, yeah. Just stirring things a little. Maybe. Or not.
Originally posted by Obadiah Isn’t it possible that God/proof of God exists within the 50% you don’t know?
And this is is why religion is faithbased only, because maybe God exists, maybe he doesn’t, and there’s no way to know no matter how strong you believe: It is still only a belief and sometimes event interpretation.
If there is any truth to it, you’ll know when you die, that’s how I see it. I prefer to see the scriptures as a guidebook to become a better person rather than a guide to worship.
Originally posted by Vorpy Sounds like GTA to me. I guess you can’t win. Anyway, what would be wrong with a secular society and humanistic ideals? Lacking faith in humanity, eh? Well, with games like GTA…
Grand Theft Auto is not the exemplar of Christian virtue and anti-secularism I was looking for. I wasn’t commenting on secular versus religious society. I was noting that atheists probably wouldn’t welcome games that attack atheism, just like many Christians oppose games like Xenogears.
Originally posted by Zero
[b]And this is is why religion is faithbased only, because maybe God exists, maybe he doesn’t, and there’s no way to know no matter how strong you believe: It is still only a belief and sometimes event interpretation.
If there is any truth to it, you’ll know when you die, that’s how I see it. I prefer to see the scriptures as a guidebook to become a better person rather than a guide to worship. [/b]
I’d say that the bible is a guide is the best way to look at it. One thing I noticed learning about history in general was the many different assimilations to religion. Over the centuries, in order for certain countries to gain rule over lesser ones, they would assimilate the lesser countries religion into theirs in order for the people to convert easly. Now with that said, there’s no telling how many different believes there are. I find it rather disturbing the idea behind, ‘Oh hey, let’s just change ours a bit to accomidate theirs so we can rule over them’, thus changing the way they might look at God. And this happened over and over again. It still happens today. I find it stupid that some people join certain religions only because it appeals to them the most. Like per say this particular religion gives the most rewards after death, or that one says that this particular pratice should be done hourly and they could use that as an excuse to get out of work, etc. I understand that it’s the believers choice to choose these believes. Anything else would go against freedom of religion. I personally just can’t believe in something that someone from long ago said was the ‘way of the word and all who don’t follow will perish’. But the one thing I hate above all else is when someone tries to get me think in their terms, trying to convert me. I don’t appreciate someone who, after I say I don’t believe, would then think of me as hopeless, or damned to hell. That’s a rather retarded idea. Besides, I’ve already been there, my last name says as much. Really good noodles.
In all honesty, I wouldn’t care if a game attacked Athiesm. I’d find that interesting, just as I found the corruption of the Ethos in Xenogears interesting.
Black & White and Populous 3 attack atheism and I find them rather cool. Unlike religious people, non-religious are not afraid of something that goes against their beliefs.
Originally posted by Ren Black & White and Populous 3 attack atheism and I find them rather cool. Unlike religious people, non-religious are not afraid of something that goes against their beliefs.
Or at least, you’re not afraid of something that goes against your beliefs. You’re not speaking for everyone.
When I don’t play a game, it’s not because I’m thinking, ‘This game’s evil, so I’m not going to play it.’ It’s because, if I don’t like what I’m doing in a game, it’s not fun.
I am a Christian, one of the Catholic type (we’re the original Christians, whatever the others say… now that I’ve said that, twenty people from twenty different sects will come to contradict me, but whatever)
As far as I am concerned, if it lacks an imprimatur it is not “required for belief” and I need not heed it if I don’t think it is true.
For one thing, I don’t think that “christian answers” web page has as much basis in reality as they’d like you to believe.
When they review video games, it is like a fish out of the water.
There are two ways to take the error of assessing video games too seriously.
Error1: It does like this, so it must be EVIL!
Error2: COOL! This is my new religion!
Error #2 tends to cause Error #1 to proliferate itself, because people who otherwise would not succumb to either, find themselves succumbing to Error #1 because they see someone else succumbing to Error #2.
Their web site has too damned much java in it for me to go anywhere… I’ll try again to see some of these silly things.
I Just read the “Christian Answers” review of Final Fantasy VII.
Nothing I particularly disagree with. I detest the Gaia theory, and everything it deals with, but am willing to accept it in the area of a fantasy game clearly defined as fiction.
My biggest problem is that the writer seems to underestimate his fellow christians’ ability to suspend disbelief. It does not follow that one must believe a concept merely because they see it once.
Considering the fact that all the reviews there are written by different people, no wonder contradictions arise (the ghost Knuckes runs into being listed as “offensive” but the ghosts in Luigi’s Mansion not being so)