I donno… as the saying goes “All good things…” it’s enivitable that a saga will come to an end. When the generation of Portable systems after the DS and PSP comes out I’m fairly confident we will have seen our last sprite based games in high end products. That will be the end of something good. Final Fantasy, Sonic, Mario, Crash … all those sagas will die at one point or another. We don’t know when or where, but we can attempt to spot turning points. SNES -> PS1 was a turning point, and it worked out well. However something did go clunk when they transfered from PS1 -> PS2/GCN. Across the board the games seemed faulty.
I was personally disappointed with FFX. Locations didn’t appear to flow in any concievable format, City to Pirates, to paradise, to corn fields, to forest, Thunder plains etc… it was as if each segement of the game was unreal. You’re constantly on a pilgramage, the places and people you meet at point A have no effect on your game unless they travel via coincidence with you. My biggest complaint was the blue haired mayster. It just didn’t register in my head that he needed to become my enemy. Sure he “looked” evil, and did everything with a frown and had a underworld summon… but his philosophy was quite accurate and seemingly benifital. He also gave no signs of being a power hungery psycopath, and all of a sudden you find a dead guy a-la Hamelt who says he was killed unjustly. It just read plot hole to me.
Then again, it is hard to judge which games will be excellent and which will be flops, even by the words of other people who’ve played the games. For example, I had heared a lot of bad reviews about FFTA, but I bought it anyways. It stands as the game I have replayed the most. But beyond the game play, I also thought that the philosophy behind it was a million times greater then what themed FFX.
The game is really about how people deal with their fantasies and realities. Ritz represented a person who did not want to leave her fantasies, and Mewt represented a person who did not want to return to reality. Idelogically, they come from the same stand point; but like communists and democrats durring WWII there are fundamental differences. Reality for Mewt ment being a runt and picked on by his peers, a part of his life that he wanted no boat with. Reality for Ritz ment walking though life without a large chunk of her humanity.
With the exception of Marche and Cid, I found that game to be rather accurate in how people react to partiular situations.
So who knows… Square has it’s strong and weak points. I am hoping that it is only a rut, but I have yet to be convinced otherwise…
Again, don’t forget that you’re judging an entire “generation” by two or three games. Truth is that both SNES and PS1 had a huge number of really awful RPGs released for it. Gems are and always will be few and far between.
How does that have to do with anything Seraphim said? That’s personally your opinion. You didnt like FF11, but you were still coaxed into playing it anyways. obviously, you are an oldschooler, but that says nothing about how the FF series will fail or not.
thats 9 not 11. =) and yes i am an oldschooler and i think that it has slowly been losing its charm over the years. yea, it is just my opinion i guess. honestly, if i didnt have too much time on my hands and a dusty psx i wouldnt have played it in the first place.
I think that FF will be around for a while longer before people stop buying it. Hopefully they get better though. I like X and X-2 but when I stop and look at the previous ones like 5, 6, and the others (especially 7 and 9) it just doesn’t feel the same. Something’s missing. I miss the good ol’ days.
That’s just because GTA3 is the first game that shocked people so much. There’s nothing inherently good about the game that makes it a classic; the content is just more mature than most people’s thinking.
Exactly how far into IX did you get? Sure, the beginning may seem a bit childish since the character designs are more fantasy-driven than games like FFVII and FFVIII, but as you get deeper into the story, there are issues dealt with that certainly set it apart from a mere children’s game.
I’ve never seen a children’s game that dealt with the kind of stuff IX dealt with.
well so far ive gotten to the part where you have to visit the 4 underground palaces or whatever they were. it got put on the back burner by other stuff
Seraphim’s right things begin to get a very serious once you get to Terra.
Anyway, like everything in this world, FF will die out, how long it takes is a completely different matter. Personally I feel that FF will be around for at least another couple of “numbered titles”.
Hopefully by then they will have got themselves sorted out, and will start producing extreme quality of games that everyone would be happy with, but that is probably just wishful thinking on my part.
Personally I think that KH May end before FF does. But then when you are being paid to make a game for a company with several of there are Trademarks that you don’t own as the main plot points. It’s in the hands of Disney. (Persinally I think they won’t Ditch it soon.)
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S-E will still go on strong. I hope we don’t have to wait another 5 years for Star Ocean 4.
Okay…uh, what?
Your constantly on a pilgrimage because…that’s what the games about. About the unreal part, this is a game after all, I could make the same argument against tons of games, but that would suck the fun out of them. It would destroy the point of playing the thing. It would kick the fun out completly.
Mt. Gagazet…the whole thing at the Macalania temple. Holy crap, the guy killed his FATHER! How much more evil do you want? Almost every word he uttered, especially in the Mt. Gagazet sequence, was self-righteous, and indeed power hungry and psychotic. I mean, he wanted to destroy the world and become Sin. That’s pretty dang power hungry.
Drugs and prostitution are not mature themes. They’re about as childish as you can get. The american vg consumer-base just happens to be oversaturated with those children I’m sure you rmemeber from high school who thought pretending to be a part of the drug scene was “cool.”
Word. I also remember in high school when my classmates used to make fun of me for being a pothead. after High school, they all asked me to get it for them. And these same kids tried to tell me that they knew more about drugs than I did. Wow, how things change so quickly. Though I never did get it for those kids, because I remember what they used to say to me.
And even if those aren’t mature themes, GTA3(and VC, haven’t played SA yet) is still the shit. Because I can do things in that game that I would never think about doing in real life. The perfect “pissed off at whatever” game. I don’t even play the missions half the time. I like the random Killing(which I guess there’s a lot more of in SA).
I’m not sure you are being sarcasting, but usually “mature” means things that young children shouldn’t be exposed to, not the actual maturity of the act.
Er…wow, it’s actually kind of funny how I’ve noticed how subjects can change so quickly here.
I’m trying to look at your statement and try to find how you could think that but it doesn’t make much sense to me Hades. There’s only one way I guess I can understand it, how the GTA series approaches the maturity of those themes. In that case, I guess you could find something. Rest assured though, they seem pretty mature to me. To me, prostitution and drugs, both the act and the exposure seem pretty mature to me. How the series deals with it isn’t exactly happy-go-lucky all the time, and that’s good, because then it would just strike me as silly.
Personally, I’m one of those boring people you see doing the missions and not the random killing. Oh my gosh it drives my neighbor crazy when he comes over and plays it. I don’t know about most people, but if there going to use drugs and prostitution as just a shallow way to get me to buy it, you can count me out. While San Andreas so far seems to not exactly have the best storyline…it is a little bit more meaningful than Vice City’s, so I can be cool with that.
…StarStorm is that avatar taken from any particular webcomic? Seems pretty familiar…
To me, prostitution and drugs, both the act and the exposure seem pretty mature to me.
You’re 15. In a year or two you’ll see just how childish and lame drugs and everything associated with drugs is. Believe me, just about the only people who think it’s mature to like drugs and prostitution are rockers and Grade 10 boys.
