Originally posted by Chris-chris
I know, but where I live in Texas, you expose yourselve its just like saying, “come into my bed, big boy.” In Amarillo, (my town) teenagers are more after the sexual needs today. Which is actually sick!:fungah: :fungah: :fungah:
Ohh yeah now I understand. That’s kind of like some places where I live, but of course you have girls like that everywhere. They bite off more than they can chew sometimes.
That be true… :fungah: :noway:
People say they are powerless, but most of the time they won’t even try…
Violence is never a good solution. Sometimes, it is the only way. But, to quote the first Mayor of the Foundation: <quote>Violence is the last resort of incompetent men.</quote> (don’t have the exact quote but it’s something like that)
I fully agree with the witnesses not helping the girl should be held accountable as accomplices. There is no excuse for ignoring anyone’s pleas for help if you have the means to help, ESPECIALLY not like this.
That the guy virtually gets free from it sickens me even more. He shouldn’t have drank in the first place, even though alcohol is the only legal poison. Since when did becoming drunk allow people to murder and rape?
Sigh… I wonder when aliens will abduct me and take me away from this crazy world… Any century now…
Originally posted by Chris-chris
Calm down Manus… don’t ge too firey. pats Manus on the head and gives him a hug
calms down and glows red
Well… Erm… Anyway… What kind of justice was that anyway?!
Ok first of all, thank you RPT, you said everything I was thinking but better than I could have.
Originally posted by Chris-chris
My cousin was rape. But it was her own flaut. She always wore these skimpy outfits, and she always had lots of boyfriends. But, here in texas, I gusse anything could go wrong. Shame on thee… man, what a jerk. V_V
And CC, I’m sorry but that’s just ridiculous. In fact I’m surprised it came from you since this sounds like a chauvinsitic males perspective. Even aside from all the reasons why it would not be the girls fault since she is not the offender, you need to remember that rape is NOT about sex, it’s about violence. The allure of rape to some people is the feeling of domination over another person, it has very little, if anything to do with sex.
Originally posted by RoguePaladinTrian
As much as everyone here’d like to say they’d don a suit of shiny armor and race to save the damsel in distress, no one here has they right to say with any surity that they definitely would, unless they’ve already been in such a situation.
I’ve been in a few similar situations and helped the victims.
And Manus, get the fuck off your high horse, screaming and shouting about how you’ll put your life on the line. You’re very much a coward by what I’ve seen on these boards, and if you were faced with it, you’d never take the chance.
Granted not everyone acts the same on these boards as they do in real life but I’ve always believed that the loudest ones are the ones who feel most insecure.
Yup, I’d help the girl too. Knowing she probably wouldn’t help me if I was in trouble, though… I’d do it anyway… Why? To prove it to others? To myself? Because it’s the right thing to do? Because I want to show others I think it’s the right thing to do?
No, I’d do it just for her. 
I’m afraid there aren’t many people who’d do that anymore these days…
CC: a few years ago, a 90-year-old woman was raped in England. Do you think she was in some outfit that made her sexy?
Good point 
Damn good point.
A sick thought, but the ends justify the means.
Originally posted by Rudora
Mate, This is all forked. 3 strikes and ya out, germany…Despite a friends recommendation to go there, i be a black listing. [/b]
Germany isn’t the only place where this kind of thing happens. Ever heard of Kitty Genovese? She was killed in NY in the 70s while all her neighbors watched from their windows. Oh, and there was a woman raped in a bar full of patrons. (They made a movie about it, with Jodie Foster). We spent several lectures talking about this kind of stuff in psychology. It’s disgusting.
Good point you guys. I dunno know why she was rape. I think from what my mom told me, I think she was on drugs and was rape by a bunch of guys. Sorry for my misunderstanding. I understand things better now.
Originally posted by Weiila
I don’t even want to comment. I’d like to do something I’ve never done before and blame the porn and movie industry. We are seeing so much violence and sickness on a daily basis that some obviously looses grip what’s reality.
Don’t agree on that. You gotta be sick by nature, first. I don’t go riding around on a harley shooting people after having seen Terminator. It is, in the end, the same thing. But I do think people who do this sorta stuff manage to push away the blame to something like that, but I don’t even wanna go there, that would be digging up too much.
All I mean to say: I don’t think you can blame a pornstar that somebody got raped on the other side of the world. That shit happened long before we had TV as well.
I agree with that, but things such as porn can make it seem acceptable to some people, and since porn is usually in such high demand, a lot of people see it as okay.Sure it happened long before television and whatnot, but it has (in my opinion) gotten worse, as people are exposed to it more, in an erotic way on TV and not in real life. You may not be so easily corrupted by watching Terminator (and that’s a good thing) but some people are, and shit like this happens all the time, stuff like people watching tv or something and then bringing the content from TV into real life, thinking it’s “okay” or that things may turn out exactly like they did in what they watched. But yeah, you already gotta be sick in nature for that to happen, and sadly, a lot of people are like that.
Er, I still say TV/Video Games/Movies has no effect on anyone but the stupid.
That’s basically what I said;) And it’s mostly stupid people that commit the crimes.
Originally posted by Stevus
Er, I still say TV/Video Games/Movies has no effect on anyone but the stupid.
A vast majority of people are stupid. 
It’s been proven through a number of studies that violent porn DOES have an effect on the people who watch it. There’s actually a law in Canada (other places too, but I don’t remember where) which makes the sentence more severe if you can prove the rapist was watching violent porn beforehand.
But anyway, it doesn’t seem like we can blame the incident in Germany on that. We can blame it on alcohol and the depravity of his character.
I see four rational people in this discussion – Sin, Kaiser, RPT, and CH – and over a dozen raving lunatics who are hell-bent on blaming the bystanders for god-knows-what reason. I’d get up right now and give RPT a fucking standing ovation if my roommate wasn’t watching me so strangely.
(Note: this paragraph addresses the people who are brimming over with hatred for the bystanders.) How can any of you possibly know what it is like to be in their position? To comdemn a fellow human being for being human? Because you know that’s what it is. Diffusion of responsibility, like Kaiser said. You people need to get a clue and take a fucking psychology class before your insensitivity ends up killing people.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. --Edmund Burke
Originally posted by Kero Hazel
(Note: this paragraph addresses the people who are brimming over with hatred for the bystanders.) How can any of you possibly know what it is like to be in their position? To comdemn a fellow human being for being human? Because you know that’s what it is. Diffusion of responsibility, like Kaiser said. You people need to get a clue and take a fucking psychology class before your insensitivity ends up killing people.
“Bystander Apathy”… yeah. I studied it quite a bit in psych.
Anyway, while I think alot of views in this thread are pretty… um… extreme, I don’t know if I’d say they’re all condemning fellow humans for being “human”. Altruism is part of life, also. Diffusion of responsibility aside, a crowd of people should not be cowardly in the face of one, lone, unarmed 19-yr-old guy. There’s no real excuse.