What if Japan took over Hawaii in the Great Patriotic War

[Warsaw_Pact]

You’re kidding me right? You’ve got to be. The ‘constitution’ of the USSR was a sop to the western countries (America in particular) to turn a blind eye so the terror, oppression and wholesale murder of Russian civilians and politicl dissidents (read; anyone not Communist) could begin. If you read even ONE history book of Communism in Russia you would know this. What you just quoted was the text of a political document that was never ever intended to be taken seriously by anyone except the West. You’ll have to do better than that.

Wonderful idea to disreguard a country’s constitution. Well then why did people from the west go to the east? You think they said “Oh I hate being free. I’m going to go to the soviet side to be opressed.”? I understand that people also fled from the east too so don’t bother pointed that out. I understand that Stalinism was bitter and opressive. I’m more of a Titoist. One thing I noticed was when a communist country did something good it was supressed. However when something went wrong the Capitalists were all over it.

[Pierson]

In order:

I’m disregarding it because IT NEVER EXISTED. The US constitution is enforced and is a basic part of life today as Americans know. The Soviet one was not.

People went from the West to the East because there were almost no knowledge about the East except that which Lenin and later Stalin allowed out. When western reporters were finally allowed in they were shown a vanilla tour of a perfect socialist ideal, and not the beggers starving in the streets or the police shooting parents in front of their children.

Of course the Capitalist countries suppressed the good and exaggerated the worst. The USSR did exactly the same about the Capitalists in it’s own newspapers. America never did anything NEAR the level of what the USSR did though. It’s like comparing Sweden and Somalia.

[Warsaw_Pact]

People went from the West to the East because there were almost no knowledge about the East except that which Lenin and later Stalin allowed out. When western reporters were finally allowed in they were shown a vanilla tour of a perfect socialist ideal, and not the beggers starving in the streets or the police shooting parents in front of their children.

Of course the Capitalist countries suppressed the good and exaggerated the worst. The USSR did exactly the same about the Capitalists in it’s own newspapers. America never did anything NEAR the level of what the USSR did though. It’s like comparing Sweden and Somalia.

Stalin was a headhunting fool. He poisoned the image of communism and was as evil as Hitler, no worse.

Im glad we can agree on the propaganda issues. And yes the Soviets did do alot of bad things but so did the Capitalists. Ever hear of the Contras?

[Big_Dizzy]

Stalin was a headhunting fool. He poisoned the image of communism and was as evil as Hitler, no worse.

Im glad we can agree on the propaganda issues. And yes the Soviets did do alot of bad things but so did the Capitalists. Ever hear of the Contras?

Yep. There was the Iran-Contra scandal during the 80’s when neoconservativism was starting to rise. And the food for oil scandal. Fucking capitalist pigs.

[Vorpy]

And you want to go to culinary school to learn to prepare that food? Why, so you can trade it for oil!!! YOU HIPPOCRAT!!!

[Seifer]

The ‘constitution’ of the USSR was a sop to the western countries (America in particular) to turn a blind eye so the terror, oppression and wholesale murder of Russian civilians and politicl dissidents (read; anyone not Communist) could begin.

Agree. But, believe it or not, most of the Soviet citizens put their faith in that “sop”. Soviet propaganda machine was extremely effective. Fidel and Saddam followed that model with success. When Stalin died, people cried as if they lost a close relative. “Our father is gone, oh no! We are lost without you. What are we going to do?”- That kind of stuff. Soviet citizens were brainwashed really good. Most of them believed that they lived in the best country in the world. Here is a flashback:

December 22, 2004
TBILISI, Georgia – Dozens of residents of Josef Stalin’s hometown celebrated the 125th anniversary of his birth yesterday, singing, dancing and drinking toasts to the Soviet dictator who died in 1953.
People cried and kissed a 6-foot-tall cardboard cutout of Stalin and laid wreaths at the base of a monument in the small town of Gori, 50 miles west of the capital, Tbilisi, paying honor to the man who oversaw years of brutal purges and remarkable industrialization of an agricultural society.

“We stood up to the Germans in the war. We built a great state,” said Kote Kavtaradze, a 78-year-old World War II veteran. “And what do we have now? I can’t even feed myself on my pension.”
He said it was about $6 a month.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041222/news_1n22stalin.html

YOU HIPPOCRAT!!!

Hippocrat was a Greek teacher and physician who was born in 460 BC. His most important written work was his oath which has made Hippocrat “the father of medicine”.

[Rinn]

Stalin was a headhunting fool. He poisoned the image of communism and was as evil as Hitler, no worse.

Im glad we can agree on the propaganda issues. And yes the Soviets did do alot of bad things but so did the Capitalists. Ever hear of the Contras?

God damn yes I have, they were great fucking games!

[The_984]

Don’t correct Vorpy, Seifer. He knows what he’s talking about, and sometimes he feels like talking like an idiot. And I coulda sworn it was Hippocrates, not Hippocrat.

[Vorpy]

I think Hippocrates are what zoos put animals in for transport.

Hippocratic oaths are the grain they feed the animals while they are in the Hippocrates.

[Seifer]

And I coulda sworn it was Hippocrates, not Hippocrat.

You are right, but you can swing his name the greek way:

.Works of Hippocrat, Aristotel and other speculators of the ancient Greece, evidently comprise information about ecology nature
http://grants.rsu.ru/osi/tsure/engl/ecobase.html

Hippocrat was a Greek teacher and physician who was born in 460 BC.
http://www.amv-trading.com/eng_hippokrateksen_hengessa.htm

“Let your food becomes to you a medicine,
and your medicines become to you food”.
Hippocrat
http://eng.tintili.net/east.htm

A sidenote to my previous post (re: communism)

“One strength of the communist system of the East is that it has some of the character of a religion and inspires the emotions of a religion”.
Albert Einstein