Sexual Assault

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I forgot the numerical statistics I was going to quote. But they were shocking and disgusting. And so on.

I have to say, one thing I don’t agree with, however serious the crime of rape is, is how (so I’ve been told/warned) if the girl is drunk during the act, she can later claim rape. This makes sense if someone was trying to get her drunk/drugged for that purpose. It makes no sense whatsoever if the ingestion of materials was her own willful choice. Just like DWI, alcohol shouldn’t be an excuse for a mistake someone makes.

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Its blatently obvious that the reason there are so many rapes is the bitches deserved it for not putting out often enough, I mean really, who cares that they only put out 6 times in 3 hours? I wanted it now and the bitch should deal with it, while she is at it, she should fetch me some dinner as well, I dont want to do that shit. They should be honoured that men can be bothered getting off the couch and stop drinking beer. They always bitch “You are not paying attention to me”, “You dont take me out to tea anymore”, “Your cock isnt big enough” and when you finally take the time off your busy schedule of drinking beer to nail them they bitch and call it rape? Bah, so what she didnt orgasm, men care little for such frivalties.

Hairy muff muchers who cant get any lovely man meat are the only ones who would fake rape, although the cases are thrown out simply because the judges know that all men would rather sleep with a rabid wolverine.

There see, its really very simple if you think about it.

In conclusion: Get some new points, back them up with facts and have an actual conversation for once :stuck_out_tongue:

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Luckily it’s the kind of statistic you hear about on the street, and is very likely not true. Also, with the exception of RPT who claims to have checked out some actual statistics, everyone in this thread seems to be basing their assumptions on entirely anecdotal evidence. "I know this one girl who faked a rape " “It seems like a lot of girls I know lie about being raped, therefore most girls lie about rape”. Anecdotal evidence is simply not sufficient to make sweeping generalizations on.

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There isn’t any.
I can’t stand the people who indulge in such practices, regardless of the reason, but I’m also disgusted to know that some people pretend they’re victims of it just to get sympathy and attention. People are selfish, and just want to have it their way. Some of them see others as nothing more than objects, playthings. They just don’t care, and ultimately, those around them are the ones who pay for their hedonism, lack of morals and rampant lust.

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Thank you for adding absolutely nothing to the conversation, no’one debated that rapists are big meanies.

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Pah! In my book, anyone who pretends to be a rape victim just to get attention is no better than rapists.

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You sir, are a fucktard.

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So crying wolf is a good thing? It’s disgusting to hear girls say “oh he raped me” when all some guy did was slip her the tongue. There are a lot of bizarre and unbalenced girls out there who do it EVERYDAY. It’s not unbelievable to think that it happens, and it happens much too often. If you don’t accept that, then your version of reality is fucked up. Many rape victims aren’t victims at all.

And Manus, there’s a difference between raping someone and having sex with someone because you enjoy them or love them. Looking at them the same way isn’t right.

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Nobody argued that crying wolf was a good thing or every claim of rape was true, leave Mojo alone!

Where are you getting all these nebulous statistics, like that it happens “EVERYDAY” and “Much too often”, is this another argument based entirely on anecdotal evidence and speculation?
I already explained how this kind of thinking is dangerous. This is one of the reasons why so many rapes go unreported. Victims rightfully fear being accused of crying wolf or having asked for it.

I think this applies to people so drunk they’re incapable of saying no, like someone who was passed out during the act.

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]Nobody argued that crying wolf was a good thing or every claim of rape was true

Manus just suggested it (in different words than what I would have said) and Urk called him a fucktard. My post wasn’t directed at him, it was just a general response.

Where are you getting all these nebulous statistics, like that it happens “EVERYDAY” and “Much too often”, is this another argument based entirely on anecdotal evidence and speculation?
I already explained how this kind of thinking is dangerous. This is one of the reasons why so many rapes go unreported. Victims rightfully fear being accused of crying wolf or having asked for it.

Do I need fucking statistics? Oh well “30.2 % of all rape victims have faked it”. No one would believe me. Do I need a number to convince you? I’ve seen it happen in my school countless times. Does that reflect rape victims on a global scale? No, but it does influence my bias, and my bias says that a lot of girls think they’ve been raped or pretend they have been for whatever reason. I knew a girl who thought she got pregnant because she was thinknig about sex too much. Really, are these just girls restricted to Nova Scotia, or could they likely be everywhere? I’m inclined to think everywhere, therefore it’s safe to assume that there are A LOT of girls out there who would use a so called rape to their advantage. It does happen. Maybe I see only that happening, and not the true rapes that have occured, and that’s what I’m so aggressive in what I believe. Maybe because I’m female and I just know the reasoning behind these things? I don’t know. Whatever the reason, it’s not “anecdotal evidence and speculation” as you so cutely put it. it’s tragic that real rape victims haven’t been reporting what has happened to them, but in a world where other girls their age are willingly faking
it…would you? Would you want to fall into the stereo type? I can’t help it if they don’t go to someone, but I can speak bitterly about the bitches who have their own agenda because of how crazy they are.

And if so many rapes go unreported, we can throw the whole “do you have any statistics?” question right out the window. Statistics are merely estimates, in this case.

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For one thing, some you guys need to get it in your heads that rape as a type of sex is incorrect. Rape is violence, not unlike someone getting bludgeoned on the skull with a tire iron. And furthermore, anyone who lies about having been raped just to get attention is vulgar and insulting to victims who have.

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  1. I didn’t say you needed statistics, I asked where you got your information from (IE: News articles, texts, or some girls at your school).
  2. No’one is arguing it doesn’t exist, don’t MAKE me bust out Mojo again. :stuck_out_tongue:
  3. What? I’m afraid I don’t understand what you’re trying to prove with this statement, sorry.
  4. You’re probably right to assume it happens everywhere. I don’t know what you mean by “A LOT” of fake rapes, do you mean a lot on a global scale, or a lot as in a large percentage? How do you tell which ones are fake by the way? And assuming this is true, what should the response be? “Yeah we know you said you were raped, but there are A LOT of girls who falsely claim so, so we’re not inclined to believe you”.
  5. It’s not? What is it based on then?
  6. I don’t know what I would do since I’ve never been raped, it’s easy to say now that I would, but I don’t know how I would feel afterwards.
  7. Of course you can, spreading rumors about “A LOT” of fake rapes that happen, and making people think they’re less likely to believed will make a rape victim less likely to report it.
  8. Uh no, because they can be based on actual reported rapes, and anonymous polling to find victims who do not report.
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Function: noun
1 : an act or instance of robbing or despoiling or carrying away a person by force
2 : unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent – compare SEXUAL ASSAULT, STATUTORY RAPE
3 : an outrageous violation

The actual definition of rape just to get us on the same page.

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There are lots of sick people out there.
I don’t think there’s much more to it than that.

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Eva, I called him a fucktard for saying that they’re as bad as rapists. Yes I agree it’s bad to cry wolf, but there is no way that those people are as bad as rapists, yes it insults the victims of rape, but it only makes them liars, not violent sexual predators.

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I once got date-raped… uhh yeah kind of… I was at the local club [STRIKE]drinking[/STRIKE] having fun, When a very good girlfriend came and started talking to me. since I had been having fun for a while She easily talked me into going home with her… for another drink she said… and then she gets all naked and stuff… ewww… but I was like… nooooooo don’t do it, don’t get close but it was already too late and my hormones started kicking in …so yeah… A man’s gotta do what a mans gotta do… but damn I felt dirty afterwards… even filthier then going to a whore…

anyway raping is bad… someone close to me once got raped… it really hurts, and not only the victim… whole families can get separated cuz of it…

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I diddn’t realize that this seems to happen so often.

I haven’t realy met anybody that i personaly know that has been wraped, so I’m kinda surprised to hear how it happens so much. But it’s probably because I’m younger too.

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ANOTHER problem is the stretching/dillution of the definition of the word. Which is happening all over the place.

Rhetoric has replaced thinking.

Just like how people have jumped the gun on calling “racism” (sometimes just for attention/sympathy, other times trying to use it as a political weapon… “see? my opponent is racist! vote for meeeeeeeeeeeee!”)

[[You get that a lot in retail, you know :smiley: Woe be to ye who refuses to give out a refund / exchange when the seeker is a minority. Nevermind that they didn’t have a recipt, nevermind that they were asking you to break company policy and endanger your job. You were RACIST, pure and simple.]]

[Notice how this dilutes and obscures the seriousness of racism and leads to a backlash against this crying of wolf that hampers the cause of victims of true racism? Good, cuz there’s gonna be a pattern, and you’ll be asked about it on the essay portion of the exam.]

Everyone who says “no” to somebody of another race is a racist.

Everyone one the other side of the political spectrum is a Nazi/Fascist (if you’re on the left) or a Hippie/Communist (if you’re on the right).

Everyone with any inclination of militancy or activism from either side is a terrorist.

Applying this to the subject at hand, looking at someone becomes sexual harrassment, and any sort of physical contact becomes rape. And the backlash, everyone flashing X ammount of skin is “acting like a slut and asking for it.”

Rather than discuss and debate, people are busting out the dirty buzzwords of rhetoric to try and “defeat” the other side. And they cry wolf with such vehemence and conviction – and/or hear others crying wolf with such vehemence and conviction – they start to think the wolves really are there.

(I dunno if I ended up anywhere near close to conveying what I wanted to say and translating what I mean into language y’all actually understand. :P)