Okay, so it’s not legally Rock Band, but all the same, this is a ‘SHIT YES’ of epic proportion.
Now if only Harmonix would give Queen a call…
Okay, so it’s not legally Rock Band, but all the same, this is a ‘SHIT YES’ of epic proportion.
Now if only Harmonix would give Queen a call…
I’m excited for this.
Hmm…this had been rumored for a while now. Should be interesting to see what people’s reaction to it is. Could be a ridiculously awesome game.
The Beatles are an underwhelming band and this will be an underwhelming game.
Just my opinion.
Also, I’m vetoing the Queen suggestion. They’re a pretty goofy band, fun to listen to sometimes, but not game-worthy. The Beatles I can at least kind of understand… even if their music does hit me like a wet noodle.
I’m trying to convince myself this is awesome, but eh. The Beatles aren’t my thing. =\
Queen were probably one of the most dynamic rock bands of their time without venturing into weird territory (Pink Floyd, King Crimson, etc). But that’s your opinion I guess.
I never said they weren’t dynamic. I said they were goofy. They’re the Weird Al of rock. Or like, a homosexual Blink182 or something. You can listen to their songs and laugh, but there’s no mistaking their clownish rock jingles for substantial music. They don’t deserve their own game imo. I’d rather see it go to a serious, established post-hardcore band like Alexisonfire, or if you want another successful band from that era that doesn’t scream “circus act!” at least go with Boston or Rush or something.
If by jingles you mean fucking great sense of melody I take you don’t mean Queen=Rock you, Champions, I want it all.
Anyway, I have a feeling some people like the Beatles (who were probably the most adventurous commercial band of their time)
Melodies mean nothing if they’re marred by cheap lyrics
I’m gonna have to go with Hades on this one. Queen wouldn’t make for a good Rock Band game if for no other reason than because they just don’t have enough songs for one. Besides some of their songs like ‘Flash Ah~ah’ and ‘We will rock you’ are comprised of nothing more than lyrics with a simple beat or even a mere handful of licks.
I’m also excited for that. More so because I’m working on it right now, today is alpha.
Oh Hades you musical elitist you.
Now if you’ll excuse me I’m gonna go listen to Save Me and be sad. Then I’ll go listen to a lighter song and be happy! Hurray for a band that decided to say “Fuck you, seriousness, I’ll take you when I want you and leave you like a dollar whore when I don’t!”
What the fuck are you talking about. I get more of what you’re saying about The Beatles, but jesus christ, if you listen to their songs and laugh, you really need to learn a little bit more about music, or get off your high horse about what makes rock good (Hint: The music, not necessarily the lyrics).
Last I checked, lyrics were part of their songs. You can’t just listen to some parts and ignore others. The lyrics are the reason they’re goofy, and bad ones can ruin good songs. Which is what happens almost unfailingly with Queen.
Just FYI, even without the shitty words, they’re a boring three-piece, and if you’re super-impressed by them or something, you need to get ON your high horse, and start listening to bands like <a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXr_4g0o9M”>Menomena</a>. They’re a fucking rainbow of musicality compared to Queen.
I accept that POV. I still disagree though, because when you listen to an album you always get the sum of music and lyrics (otherwise e.g. I-I-I-I-I have become comfortably numb would never work) and it works for me. To each his own.
I took a walk with an invisible friend
And on that walk, I gave my handO, to be a machine
O, to be wanted
to be usefulWith this ring that I wear today
My whole world is your propertyO, to be a machine
O, to be wanted
to be usefulI took a walk with an invisible friend
And on that walk, I gave my hand
This makes me lol a LOT more than any Queen lyrics. A big reason you can’t use lyrics as a criticism for a band is that the enjoyment of them is so subjective. You’d have to pay more attention to the way they use the lyrics musically, and if I had had to base the musicality of their lyrics on this song, it would be ‘average at best.’
Wow. This is the pinnacle of musical excellence - a static piece in common time with the same three chords for four minutes, and a clusterfuck of instruments arpeggiating those three chords. Do you really think I’ve never heard a weird-ass indie band before?
I’m not saying that Queen doesn’t have ANY songs that are dull like this, but if I wanted to get someone excited about Queen, I wouldn’t show them “We Will Rock You”, that’s for sure. Got anything better than this?
Really? You’re really gonna pull the bullshit 4/4 argument on me? I’m not some douchebag you pulled in off the street who knows little enough about music to think complex time is the holy grail of musical creativity. Remember who you’re talking to. It’s the people who slam 4/4 who are truly on a high horse.
And the clusterfuck of instruments argument doesn’t really work because there’s rarely more than 3 or 4 playing at a time, regardless of however many there are overall. The fact that Menomena is so threadbare is one of the things I like about them.
And what the fuck? Static? Just because the tempo doesn’t change doesn’t mean the rhythm and musical ideas don’t ebb and flow. Did you even listen to the song?
If you think sarcastic commentary on the state of society is lol-able, I don’t even know what to say to you. Queen’s lyrics are just not as meaningful, in any song they’ve ever written, as what you just quoted from Evil Bee, nor do they sound as good in the context of their songs. They’re written with one purpose in mind: to elicit laughs. That’s why I compared them to Blink and Weird Al.
if I wanted to get someone excited about Queen, I wouldn’t show them “We Will Rock You”, that’s for sure
What WOULD you show them? Bicycle Race? Another One Bites The Dust? Bohemian Rhapsody? Killer Queen? You have ZERO leverage to be making comments like this. Their songs are pretty weak across the board.
I can give you handful of more creative songs by Menomena:
Wet And Rusting
Divad
Trigga Hiccups
I can also give you handful of more creative BANDS than Menomena:
MGMT
Ayreon
Copeland
Hooverphonic
Infected Mushroom
Moneen
Say Anything
If you want recommendations, I’ll give them, but don’t come back here bashing them and still trying to pass Queen off as a lyrically not-shit band. I’m already having a hard time believing you’re not just trying to troll me. Some of your statements really are that ridiculous.
Umm, just to add my two cents. I enjoy Queen myself, as a part-time band that I listen to every now and then and maybe try to hit some of those notes they hit. That’s really the only truly impressive part to me, the Tenor notes the man does on some of those songs. The songs are enjoyable, as I already said, but really they are just there for an every now and then listening.
And just to say, Hades, you forgot the NWO and the BBC Big Band Orchestra. You should know them. NWO did all the Star Wars music(which is actually good you have to admit) and the BBC Big Band Orchestra did such songs as Sing, Sing, Sing(my favorite orchestral piece) and Moonlight Sonata and Moonlight Serenade.
And on a side-note, I would enjoy doing a Rock Band: The Beatles as I could sing those songs very well. One I would enjoy more is a Rock Band that included some of Five For Fighting’s more hardcore music like Infidel and Nobody. Maybe Disneyland as well. Though I guess that would never happen as most of the songs use a piano piece to compliment the songs(especially in 100 Years and If God Made You).
Maybe they could do the two Superman songs by the Dave Matthews Band.
And this is just my two cents, you can bash on me as much as you want, but I really won’t care.
Don’t forget who you’re talking to, either. Common time was merely one thing I mentioned - obviously, simply having common time doesn’t make a song lame. However, if you’re going to shit on a band, and then give me a band that’s a ‘rainbow of musicality’, it just looks funny when musical elements of the song are simple. It’s the three chords over and over again in slightly different orders (sometimes, even omitting one of the three chords!) that really made me roll my eyes the most, if you must know.
And the clusterfuck of instruments argument doesn’t really work because there’s rarely more than 3 or 4 playing at a time, regardless of however many there are overall. The fact that Menomena is so threadbare is one of the things I like about them.
It can sound like a clusterfuck even if there’s only a few instruments. This song accomplishes it by sound busy as hell (what with a chording instrument hitting almost every eight-note in the entire song, not to mention how stupidly loud the percussion is), with the chording instruments played as loud as the melodic instruments the majority of the time. Top it off with a bunch of neat-yet-ultimately-disjunct musical ideas and the result, especially with the lame-ass chord progression, is a very boring wall of sound.
And what the fuck? Static? Just because the tempo doesn’t change doesn’t mean the rhythm and musical ideas don’t ebb and flow. Did you even listen to the song?
You may not be some douchebag I pulled in off the street who knows little enough about music to think complex time is the holy grail of musical creativity (which I still maintain that this wasn’t my implication), but you really do need to brush up on your musical terms. The words ‘dynamic’ and ‘static’ refer to volume in music. The majority of the song plays at the same volume (even if the individual instruments drop in sound; the irony is, they’re still attacked with the same intensity when they’re lower in volume, making it feel like they aren’t much quieter anyways).
The only time when that changes enough to really matter is some time in the first half where only the bass plays, and even that only lasts four bars, cos the drums come in loud as fuck to make up for the sparsity of the instruments. And, before you mention that there are plenty of other times where all but one instrument cuts out, the bass is the only one that’s quiet enough to make a really dramatic impact.
If you think sarcastic commentary on the state of society is lol-able, I don’t even know what to say to you. Queen’s lyrics are just not as meaningful, in any song they’ve ever written, as what you just quoted from Evil Bee, nor do they sound as good in the context of their songs. They’re written with one purpose in mind: to elicit laughs. That’s why I compared them to Blink and Weird Al.
You’re just plain wrong about the intention of Queen lyrics, whether or not they’re meaningful. Notice that not ONCE have I ever argued that they’re deep, or something stupid like that. This is because
Like I said previously, “A big reason you can’t use lyrics as a criticism for a band is that the enjoyment of them is so subjective. You’d have to pay more attention to the way they use the lyrics musically, and if I had had to base the musicality of their lyrics on this song, it would be ‘average at best.’”
Lyrics are not musical because of their meaning; that’s simply the poetry of the song. Lyrics are musical by two ways, in general:
The use of their inherent percussive qualities in a song, which, sorry, the use of the lyrics as an effective percussive tool in this song is virtually non-existent, what with the super long notes.
Lyrics can have an indirectly musical quality if the music fits the meaning of the lyrics well. This song has things that are both appropriate and inappropriate to the song’s meaning. The dull chord progression fits the lyrics appropriately enough, as does the boring wall of sound. However, some stuff, like the funky bass riffs and the syncopated tenor sax riffs is complete bullshit - unless, by some chance, the sax is supposed to represent the buzzing of bees. I doubt it actually does, because they wouldn’t have used punchy marcato notes otherwise.
What’s musical about singing is the SINGER, not the lyrics. This singer is mediocre at best.
What WOULD you show them? Bicycle Race? Another One Bites The Dust? Bohemian Rhapsody? Killer Queen? You have ZERO leverage to be making comments like this. Their songs are pretty weak across the board.
Actually, Bohemian Rhapsody is an excellent example. It’s got three movements (a multi-movement piece in a popular song, imagine that), all with a completely different sound, but unified by a common melodic theme. The lyrics superficially talk about gang-life, but cryptically talk about interpersonal relationships (By the way, do you think they did that to elicit a laugh? Cos if you did, “I don’t know what to say”). And to top it all off, it sounds good, the music fits the tone of the lyrics ALL THE TIME, and is musically impressive on a technical level as well. I’d have a hard time saying that this is weak, be it weak across the board or in any section on the board at all.
If you want recommendations, I’ll give them, but don’t come back here bashing them and still trying to pass Queen off as a lyrically not-shit band. I’m already having a hard time believing you’re not just trying to troll me.
I’m sorry that you’re in such a huff about this, but you kind of make flamebait out of a post if your post is filled with not simply negative, but slightly caustic opinion.
More importantly, though, let me set two things straight:
I’m not saying that Queen is a lyrically not-shit band. For one, enjoyment of lyrics are way too subjective for me to make such a ridiculous argument.
I’m not even saying Menomena sucks. I’ve only listened to one song, and even though this kind of music is not my cup of tea, it’s hard to judge a band based on one song, right?
What I AM saying, however, is that Queen IS a musically complex band, whereas, if Evil Bee is a good example of Menomena’s level of musicality, they are not. You don’t need to be musically complex to be a good band or musician - fuck, I listen to Steve Reich, for crying out loud (If you want to see exactly what that means, look up ‘Steve Reich Violin Phase’ on youtube, and listen to the first example; a heady idea, but a terribly uncomplex piece). However, if you’re going to denounce a band as a musically simple band, make sure you truly recommend a more complex band, because the thrust of my argument is: A band that is more complex than Queen is definitely_NOT_Menomena.