Define more stable politically (and I doubt whatever your definition is, South America counts as politically stable).
Communism is a great idea - But not more than that. Same goes for Capitalism. Now Technocracies on the other hand…
Originally posted by Uriel
It’s still worth a try…communism is a very appealing system, we know this…but as long as humans are easily corrupted, there can never be a good political system…At least everyother countryis doing better than the US. (Politically, except Iraq)
Unfortunately, communism is more of an idealistic system: Marx intended it to continue until the government was unnessecary, leavning an anarchy.
An admirable sentiment, but idealism doesn’t really work in the real world. True communism won’t work until people give up the desire for power, and that will never happen.
You’re perfectly right there, SS. So I guess we’ll have to wait for aliens to take over the Earth and show us the true way to behave…or when we become extinct.
Originally posted by Uriel
It’s still worth a try…communism is a very appealing system, we know this…but as long as humans are easily corrupted, there can never be a good political system…At least everyother countryis doing better than the US. (Politically, except Iraq)
I usually avoid this politcal little debates because I know nothing about them…BUT I must comment on this.
You are speaking about approx 200 countries doing better than the US. That is just a false false FALSE statement. To counter that, in what way did you mean “doing better”? I’d say countries like Ethiopia and a majority of South Africa are not “doing better” in any way than the United States. There are dozens of small wars being fought around the world right now (most of them prob in the Middle East) excluding a lot of countries from your claim. United States has its major issues, but it is a lot better off than a lot of poorer, un-unified countries out there. By un-unified I mean countries that can’t agree and get their shit together.
And no, humans are not easily corrupted, it is just our nature to rebel. And I echo what everyone else said about flaws. basically you can be compared to someone who wants to achieve world peace-it can never happen, not everyone can work together 100%.
When you’re risking something as big as communism just to “give it a try” you don’t have the chance to screw up, no, you are wanting to fuck with people’s lifestyle’s just to see “how it’ll go” and then make amends after that. On such a scale as this, you don’t have the opporitunity to fix problems that arise in trying because you’re sinking yourself and everyone else even further. There is no room for mistake.
Just what I think.
Wise words that, Eva.
ill settle for socialism.
Heh. Socialism at least grants that people want to own things and hold power over others. It doesn’t force everyone on some concept of “equality”.
Tryue equality is impossible. Life will always have power imbalances: employer to employee, child to parent, and so on. The sooner you recognize that there’s lessers and betters, the better.
The best equality is equality of opportunity: Allowing people to gain power, riches, and so on without regard to race, religion, gender, and so on.
Unfortunately, communism doens’t recognize that. And without lawful means of gaining power, things can get rather…vicious.
Not to mention that to ENFORCE equality (or even anarchy) someone would have to be in power, thus breaking true equality or lack of government. Which is understandable, because people want power over others. It’s basic survival.
ill settle for socialism.
Sweeden has a pretty good socialist system. Or so I’ve heard.
Originally posted by Wertigon
Communism is a great idea - But not more than that. Same goes for Capitalism. Now Technocracies on the other hand…
…are completely evil.
socialism is the governement structure, communism is the economic structure…just wanted to clear that up…
Wrong. Text book definitions of socialism and communism (little c still) are as follows:
Socialism - an economic system in which the means of producing and distributing the goods are owned by a central government.
Communism - an economic system in which the means of producing and distributing the goods are owned collectively by the people.
Now, this does not take into account Socialist and Communist governments which have developed other qualities such as the cradle to grave healthcare and whatnot.
Thanks, 984. I’ve always wondered what the actual definitions were, but was too lazy to look them up myself.