The amount of people killed in saving private ryan/blackhawk down is, of course, much larger, but what Kill Bill lacks in amount, it makes up for in ingenuity.
<img src=“http://cala.nulani.net/images/calacat.gif”>Well, I was thinking about the landing (intenstines spilled out) from SPR or the leg operation or rocket-hit from the HUMVEE (BHD).
Originally posted by Cala
<img src=“http://cala.nulani.net/images/calacat.gif”>Well, I was thinking about the landing (intenstines spilled out) from SPR or the leg operation or rocket-hit from the HUMVEE (BHD).
Oh, there are intestines in this. Don’t you worry.
Edit: Holy shit. The people that did the anime sequence worked on Ghost in the Shell, Evangelion, Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade, and Blood: The Last Vampire
Better than Pulp Fiction? oh man… Pulp Fiction’s one of my favourite movies, so if that’s the case, I have to see this.
I must watch this movie as soon as possible.
I’ve been planning on seeing it ever since I found out Quentin Tarantino was directing it; it looks awesome. I’m hopefully seeing it tomorrow.
Originally posted by Sinistral
Better or worse than Pulp Fiction?
It’s more compelling to me than Pulp Fiction; because the plot line is more single-minded and driven whereas in Pulp Fiction it wandered a bit. That being said, Pulp Fiction is so iconoclastic these days that to argue against it would be unwise. I probably like Reservoir Dogs the most myself (but I can’t really decide), but I definitely recommend seeing Kill Bill over anything else right now, and let yourself make any conclusions.
In terms of gore, the movie that most stands out in my mind as a parallel is Braveheart, since both use hand-to-hand combat. It’s certainly more grisly than Gladiator, and while I haven’t seen Braveheart in a while, from what I remember Kill Bill blows it out of the water in terms of violence (although as Steve said, Bill’s bloodshed is far more ingenuous and almost comedic it’s so exaggerated and different). If you are really squeamish when it comes to blood (and even I cringed a good deal during some sequences),then maybe you should skip it; but if you can handle Braveheart or Saving Private Ryan then you should definitely not be barred due to blood.
Anyway, the best thing I can say about Kill Bill is this. I went and saw it Friday. And I was still so caught up in it that me and my friend who saw it the day before (and a third person) went to go see it again the next night. And it was still just as good if not better. I can’t wait for February.
anyway, all three (Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill – I can’t speak for Jackie Brown or Tarantino’s other projects) are all different movies, even if they all share some general subtleties. So I wouldn’t compare them to one another so much as realize that all three really kick ass, and despite what some critical and popular naysayers are saying right now, this is a real good movie; the first epic of the new millennium. I think Tarantino is the next Kubrick (in terms of making really famous movies that people are really divided over when it comes to how good they are).
Watching it now. Got as far as the anime sequence.
NO-ONE has that much blood. 
EDIT: His teeth shattered! AHHHH!
I saw the movie last friday. I have to say there’s just a bit of the ol’ ultraviolence. I found myself laughing at certain points in the movie. The limbs shooting blood everywhere was definately an allusion to Samurai animes. Some people were complaining about the plot, but I took the movie as style over substance. All in all the movie was excellent.
Have finished just now.
That. Was. Amazing.
Especially the part where she’s fighting in the dark against a blue background. Tarantino is a visual GOD!
Here is my review i wrote that i posted on one of my movie review boards =)
If your a fan of Tarantino, your gonna love this flick. It has the 70’s music and feel like many of his other movies as well as has his typical segmented storyline and jumping around in the timeline. You can tell immedately by the opening credits that this is classic Tarantino. He is the only person who could pull off a film such as this and he does so admirably.
The story in a nuthsell. An as of yet unnamed bride (who speaks her name once in the film but it is actually bleeped out by Tarantino) Codenamed Black Mamba (Uma Thurman) is supposedly killed on her wedding day by her old crew of assasins known as “Deadly Viper Assasination Squad” (or DVAS…get it?) so named as all the members have snake codenames. She manages to survive the slaughter in the form of a coma.
4 years and 6 months later she awakes from the coma, in a fairly disturbing scene, and begins her task of revenge against the Viper Death Squad and most importantly thier leader Bill (David Carradine).
The first volume has her going against Copperhead (Vivica A Fox) and Cottonmouth (Lucy Liu) in some very bloody showdowns. Whereas the final volume will apparently have her going after Sidewinder (Frequent Tarantino collaberator Michael Madsen) and California Mountain Snake (Daryl Hannah) as well as Bill himself.
The fight choreography is one of the most notable sections where the film shines. The wire/stunt work (Yuen Wo-Ping of Matrix, Croutching Tiger) is flat out great. It does, however does require serious suspetion of disbelief (as in Croutching Tiger). The fights are excellent and the appearence of legend Sonny Chiba (as the sushi chef sword maker) and Chiaki Kuriyama (of Battle Royal fame) are among the highlights.
Warning though, the movie is gory as hell. It is like a 70’s mandarin samurai flick which in fact, is the intent. When someone gets thier arm cut off, for instance, an obscene (And litterally laughable) amount of blood comes out. It was said that 450 gallons of fake blood were used between the two movies. There are numerous parts where you will simpy go “Ewww!” and flinch at what you just saw. There is even a section that is done in Japanimation style and has the stereotypical anime violence.
It is a movie that you can tell they had fun making though and I for one will probably go see it again. If you are in the mood for a movie that is just plain fun, go see Kill Bill.
if you’re looking for objective comments, don’t bother reading this. My apartment is adorned with black wooden matted Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, and True Romance posters. A 4 foot by 8 foot Kill Bill banner has been hanging in my living room for over a month, right next to my life size Pulp Fiction standup. I scheduled to take Friday (10/10, Kill Bill release date) off work a few weeks ago, and had trouble sleeping Wednesday and Thursday night due to my extreme anticipation.
Needless to say, I haven’t seen a movie so captivating since Pulp Fiction (which I saw 10 times in the theatre). I saw Kill Bill 3 times on Friday, and again Sunday night. It gets exponentially more enjoyable each time I see it. It is, without a doubt, the best Martial Arts movie ever made. And don’t forget, this is only part one.
Is it better than Pulp Fiction? Nah, not even remotely close. Pulp Fiction transcended anything ever put on the screen. In my opinion, I don’t think it’s possible for it to be outdone…let alone something come close. PF was the total package…it had much more depth, comedy, a slew of amazing characters, and absolutely shocking twists with a degree of unpredictability never before seen. Not to mention the dialogue was the coolest shit ever written.
Is it better than Reservoir Dogs? Nah…maybe close, but no cigar. Reservoir Dogs sucked your soul into the life of a criminal, and you experienced everything as if you were one of Joe’s ill-fated thieves. It was an angle carried out like no other, with a dream cast that perfectly executed every scene. Mr. Pink is probably my favorite movie character, followed closely by Vincent Vega.
Kill Bill pt 1 is about revenge, blood and martial arts. Such a simple and generic theme has never been carried out with so much passion and energy. Hell, it’s a damn kung-fu movie, but it already stands as a strong fourth on my favorite movie list (True Romance being third.)
My only criticisms are: I thought Uma was little robotic carrying out her lines in Chapter 1 with Copperhead. The anime wasn’t nearly up to par with GITS quality, it got the point across, but could have been much higher “quality” (for lack of a better term). Finally, the fight with O-Ren at the end wasn’t nearly what I expected it to be. For Christ’s sake, show the final strike…at least do a flashback if you want to save the suspense. And Mamba should have leaned on her sword after the fight, not dropped it to the ground ><
Otherwise, the movie was full of thrills and chills, as you cheered Black Mamba on to fulfill her revenge. The anime sequence I’m going to guess was around 10 minutes, if that, and was a very ballsy move by Tarantino. It fit perfectly, and I think it gives many non-anime fans a taste of how powerful animation can be (i.e. it’s more than just disney), and maybe they’ll understand - if just a little bit - why some of us ‘freaks’ dig anime.
I’m looking forward to seeing the Japanese release, I’ll have to poke around for it or wait for the DVD. It’s allegedly not censored as much. And of course, I’m anxiously awaiting the day Volume 2 is released…and yeah - I’ll be taking that day off work too.
I think a lot of criticism of this movie comes from its very simple plot - when you watch it, you don’t have to think about what’s happening, or wonder about plot twists or unpredictability or what have you. But the thing is - when you’re thinking about a movie, you’re not…INTO it. Kill Bill immerses you so completely in the simple, yet compelling storyline…it seems like, the only way you WOULDN’T like it, is if you didn’t want to be that completely immersed. If you wanted some part of you to be able to judge philosophically or some shit, while (or after, even) you watched. Cause this movie won’t have any of that. If you’re trying to find depth to it with your brain, you’re not going to find it - Kill Bill’s depth is more visceral, more surrounding, more complete. Some might say that makes it lacking, just “another action flick,” but no, no way.
The bit of interesting philosophy though (that might be built upon in vol. 2) was how it said Bill backed O-Ren financially and philosophically - and her crack hit squad was called the Crazy 88 -> 88 is a “lucky number” in chinese/japanese culture, because the ideogram for it is the same as for good fortune/luck. And her squadron (and she, cause of the death of her parents and subsequent rise in the japanese underworld) seemed to have the mindsets leaning towards, nothing really matters over anything else and so long as we embrace that quasi-nihilistic madness, fortune (chaos) will deal us what needs be dealt. Like, Gogo, the crazy japanese girl is the perfect example of that madness, and she’s so fucking badass. But when Uma Thurman kicked her ass, it was like showing that whatever drove her (revenge? a purpose? we’ll be able to more specifically define it later) was more deserving of good fortune than even the “Crazy 88.” It’ll be cool to see how Bill’s mindset collides with Uma’s knife-edge purpose. It’s nothing convoluted - that’s part of what makes Kill Bill so awesome, so you can be completely immersed in the movie without worrying about philosophy - it either just comes so naturally that it’s easy to follow or you don’t have to worry about it (and it’s still awesome).
And really, after all, who are we to say that our conscious brain can make better judgments than our gut, our visceral/emotional/unconscious brain?
Anyhoo, I loved Kill Bill, it rocked so frickin much. Saw it twice in two days, I might see it again after school today if I’m not too tired. So awesome. Speaking of school I have homework to do. Fuckin’…
-Mazrim Taim
Originally posted by Amerycinsycho
Some people were complaining about the plot, but I took the movie as style over substance. All in all the movie was excellent.
What makes Tarantino movies great is not so much a hugely involved or complicated plotline (at their essences his movies are rather basic plot-wise), but the way they’re delivered. The best stories are at their core simple, but something about their presentation or layout makes them stick out above everything. And Tarantino just really knows how to tell a stylish simple story.
Yeah, and I may go see it again Wednesday 
Originally posted by Jakanden
The story in a nuthsell. An as of yet unnamed bride (who speaks her name once in the film but it is actually bleeped out by Tarantino) Codenamed Black Mamba (Uma Thurman) is supposedly killed on her wedding day by her old crew of assasins known as “Deadly Viper Assasination Squad” (or DVAS…get it?) so named as all the members have snake codenames. She manages to survive the slaughter in the form of a coma.
I know her name and I haven’t even seen it yet ^^
…sad I know:fungah:
Originally posted by Evangelion
[b]I know her name and I haven’t even seen it yet ^^…sad I know:fungah: [/b]
I know it too heh, but It isnt said in the movie (Well it is, but its bleeped out) hence that phrase =)
Originally posted by Merlin
Yeah, and I may go see it again Wednesday
Yo dude, count me in (if you can)
-Mazrim Taim
I must be the only person on the face of the planet that thinks this movie looks like total shit. It has never held one ounce of interest in me at all, and looks to be a complete and total charlies angels rip off.
Originally posted by Sorcerer
I must be the only person on the face of the planet that thinks this movie looks like total shit. It has never held one ounce of interest in me at all, and looks to be a complete and total charlies angels rip off.
Star Wars is a complete and utter ripoff of old samurai movies, but nobody seems to complain…