Just because I download some music you can’t get a hold of here. >_<
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3250075.stm
It probably means you as well, if you’re a regular internet user who has realised that there is a lot of old music out there that you simply can’t find in record stores, but is easily available over one or other of the P2P networks.
And people wonder why I hate the new IP laws… -_-
me too, let’s start a syndicate
we’ll let the world know we are not to be messed with
Ah, that thing. They had to postpone the date of discussion in the comitee because of the very very bad responses this thing got in the European Parliament. It even got a horrible backslash from the “hardliners” saying it goes too far, resulting in over 100 amendments. Some even argue the EU cannot make a law that massive.
I think that Mp3s are one of the best ways to preserve music now. If we can back it up on several mediums we have a better chance of saving it. Still, I can’t understand why someone would remix a velvet underground song. The whole concept behind the music was minimalist.
I don’t get it. Wasn’t the download of copyrighted material already a crime ever since the invention of copyrights?
Yes, but right now it’s a civil crime. This proposal will turn it into a serious crime with mandatory 5 year prison.
And as I said, even the pro industry hardliners are extremly unhappy about this and have given in countless amendments (some go as far as “throw it in the trash” - not an actual quote).
Well… A moral crime if nothing else.
The way I’ve understood it though, it’s not the DOWNLOADER that is the criminal - It’s the one distributing the works. So as long you’re just leeching the law cannot touch you. Atleast, that’s how it works here.
For the record, I think that you should honor the agreements of whatever it is you’re using, therefore BUY the damn thing instead of leeching it. It is there, freely available for anyone whom can afford it, and if you like it you should atleast show some respect towards the people who did whatever you are using. If it’s free software, well, no problems then. 
However, that law proposal is just going way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far.
It basicly makes it a crime to share any copyrighted music, movie, game or software, through the use of any P2P technology. That includes software such as Apache (Yes, the Open Source based webbserver), Linux, emacs and all it’s numerous addons, and the GIMP.
And P2P technologies includes, but are not limited to: DCC, ICQ File Transfer, Kazaa, Morpheus, Direct Connect… So you can see why I’m getting rather pissed about this whole thing. =P
Note that I haven’t actually looked through the entire proposal, but I have a strong suspicion it’ll look just like that… Then again, it might just be my imagination. shrugs Ah well. It’s better to expect and prepare for the worst than to be caught with your pants down…
Now that’s going to far…even for me. I believe you should be able to download stuff you can’t find it after some reasonable amount of ad-searching or store surfing.
The original copyright law never really affected downloads, unless you were selling them on. That would break the law.
But this new law doesn’t care whether you are not selling them on, it just cares whether you are actually downloading them or not, right? I never really bothered to read it fully.
It’s not a law, it is a proposal. The EU countries have to turn it into a law. And since it isn’t even done - the discussion about it has been postponed to the end of November - I seriously doubt it will become that radical - if it passes at all.
However, if it passes, I will seriously and without joke employ §20 article 4 of the German constitution which allows me to resist anyone who tries to destroy the very constitution or lawfulness of our country. And I judge this unamended proposal as such.
Why is downloading music so bad?
The easiest way to stop crime, is to punish everything that resembles a criminal act.
I am not going to worry untill the legislation has been passed and made active. And from my knowledge, it hasn’t.
Mp3s are the future, iTunes has pretty much already proven that.
Originally posted by |Damage|
me too, let’s start a syndicate
we’ll let the world know we are not to be messed with
…right after i get over this hangover.
Originally posted by Alyx
Why is downloading music so bad?
Well virginia, theres a little thing called money. Artists cant get enough of it, and even though they have more than enough, they seem to think that people downloading songs will take their money away, even though one concert ticket to a big name show it almost worth 30 CDs.
Damn greedy idiots…
Originally posted by Devillion
[b]
Well virginia, theres a little thing called money. Artists cant get enough of it, and even though they have more than enough, they seem to think that people downloading songs will take their money away, even though one concert ticket to a big name show it almost worth 30 CDs.Damn greedy idiots… [/b]
Which means downloading music is not a bad thing after all~
You, fight the power brother.p:unch:: (posts a rarely used smilie)
Put my head on the chopping block too…:mwahaha:
I just was given a burned CD of a software program (really, it wasn’t porn or music) from a college administrator.
The easiest way to stop crime, is to punish everything that resembles a criminal act.
Well, Nulani, that’s what Vlad the Impaler thought. And he was right, crime ended. Only problem is, I, who am relatively peaceable right now, would instantaneously morph into a criminal if HIS kind of laws came into effect.
IMPALE THE IMPALER! DOWN WITH VLAD!
Originally posted by Devillion
[b]Well virginia, theres a little thing called money. Artists cant get enough of it, and even though they have more than enough, they seem to think that people downloading songs will take their money away, even though one concert ticket to a big name show it almost worth 30 CDs.Damn greedy idiots… [/b]
Correction time.
Certain celebrity sell-out bands co-opted and used as the /MouthpiecE\ notwithstanding, this greed and desire to bitchslap the little guy isn’t coming from the artists, but the record label suits at all your major recording companies. And this is where the RIAA comes in. The political/activist wing of the movement.
For those of you who’ve taken an SAT recently, here’s one of those analogy questions, to make it a tad clearer:
RIAA : major record labels
as
Sinn Fein : Irish Republican Army.
They are the “legal” goon squad.
Don’t spit the venom at the artists. Most of them are getting screwed as bad as us by Boards of Directors who are trying to squee
They are the “legal” goon squad.
Don’t spit the venom at the artists. Most of them are getting screwed as bad as us by Boards of Directors who are trying to squeeze those stocks a quarter point higher by any means necessary. Like all those years where CDs would cost 2-3 dollars to produce, but they sold them to us for 15, and the recording artist got a shit share of that profit which they had to kick back to the company anyway, to pay off the “loan” they had to take out to borrow studio time.
Originally posted by Chris StarShade
[b]Well, Nulani, that’s what Vlad the Impaler thought. And he was right, crime ended. Only problem is, I, who am relatively peaceable right now, would instantaneously morph into a criminal if HIS kind of laws came into effect.IMPALE THE IMPALER! DOWN WITH VLAD! [/b]
I use a lot of sarcasm and irony in my posts, that is also true in this post.
Isn’t he the guy that is also known as Dracula?
