How public is your video game hobby?

Unless you can finance the thing (:cowers in fear).

I’m…a little confused by this comment in relation to your comment about implying Ireland to be “your favorite country”. I can’t see how saying you can’t imagine what you do in word with extremely negative connotations in relation to the following word Ireland implies, in any sense or form, that Ireland is your favorite country? Even of your two “heroes”, one pretty much hated a lot of Irish society. I…don’t see anywhere an implication that Ireland was a country that’d be listed in your favorite.

I fail to see how famous Irishmen and their marvelous accomplishments are anathema to a side tangent about things to do in Ireland. As if the Irish (and other oft rained-upon peoples) had nothing to do before videogames.

The bit from Lapis Lazuli is probably the best illustration I’ve ever heard of about the joys found by heroes in what lesser men consider only tragedies, with the possible exception of part III of Under Ben Bulben by the same man. It is my response to Cavelcade and Luna Alcantz’s contention that men who have problems of any sort seem to be worthless or bad examples or something.

I remain puzzled as to how I am “shitting on Ireland” when I’ve infact said twice that it’s one of my favorite ideas in the world.

I’m sorry that you consider “name-dropping” others’ references to historical persons and events. Some people do actually think, wonder about, and are inspired by these people enough without needing to prove some sort of credibility issue to onlookers.

Which famous writers in your opinion DID something? I can think of Byron and… Jack fucking London? I guess you aren’t a big fan of literature if you require your poets to have DONE something other than write brilliant works of genius that elevate humanity to new levels and generally make life living for people. I’m just boggled by this new criterion of artistic worth. To have DONE something. Sorry, Bill Shakespeare.

Oh, thankfully, I don’t think anyone actually cares about that, atleast anyone who doesn’t have some kind of political axe they want to grind though art. I assume by “DONE something” you mean something like marching in a parade against the Vietnam War with a great fuzzy beard, which by all means makes Ginsberg the A#1 poet of the millenium. (And that achieved a lot too, by the way.) The idea that Yeats isn’t generally regarded as the premier English poet of atleast the early 20th century is just patently incorrect as a matter of fact, much like the statement that Nirvana wasn’t regarded as the most important music act of the early 90s before Cobain’s suicide. The Nirvana example, admittedly, wasn’t the best (nor am I much of a fan), but I think the idea got across.

Also, the statement that Yeats was a fascist is misleading, while he was interested at times in the third-rate pseudo-fascist blue shirts. I recall Mahatma Ghandi had a few good words for Hitler in his time. This is more of the same narrow-minded bullshit ideological partisans are always trying to shoot down the greats with. You’d think they’d have learned by now, since they always come off worse themselves.

Base-born products of base beds.

sil, he’s saying that you’ve changed the topic of the thread to a discussion on your favorite Irish poets. Feel free to make a separate thread about it, but he’s getting on your case for straying off the main topic of the thread. If what you’re talking about interests you more than the video game topic, make another thread about it, by all means.

Also, to be fair…Cavelcade, stop fueling the fire. Like I told Sil, this is a topic about video games, so please refrain from making lengthy refutations to his Sil’s comments about Ireland. The thread isn’t called “How much do you know about Ireland?”

CH: I thought you said BY Shakespeare for some reason. Oh. Then I’m going to have to say that the poem isn’t ABOUT Shakespeare, but alludes to his characters. Is it getting pretentious enough in here for you? :slight_smile:

I dont have a videogame hobby. I haven’t used a hardware videogame system since 2000. The only exception is World of Warcraft, but even that I haven’t played for over a year. I just stay here because I like some of the people.

But now your lack of a videogame hobby is public. Doesn’t this count as anything?

I sincerely doubt that he goes up to people and says, “Hey- wanna NOT play video games tonight? Oh, that’s right. I don’t play games!” It’s a little silly to publicly not play video games unless you were morally against them or something, in which case you wouldn’t hang around a video game forum.

I’m commenting only tangentially on the topic of the thread here, more along the vein of game design as harder-core-or-no than other media.

SG got very close to my personal philosophy of game design. It’s not one that makes money, of course, but that’s the compromise of any art. If you do it for a living you’ll either give the public what they want or starve.

Not that starving is all bad. I have a theory that artists have to starve sometime in order to have something to base their art on. If they haven’t gotten their suffering over in childhood, they’ll have to address that during their carreer.

In the Open Source community there are a lot of people who make a game because they think it would be a fun project or an interesting idea. They like the idea of a mechanic they’ve thought of, so they either try to build a game around it (hit or miss… or miss or miss or miss) or they file it until they come across a game concept and think “hey, this is perfect for that core mechanic I thought up all those years ago…” (cue harp runs). In the latter case you had better have either a day job or a big nest egg to lean on.

I’ve got a little design project of my own. I want to create a small, open source ORPG. I don’t think it’ll be justifiably called Massively Multiplayer; I want Joe T. Sysadmin to be able to host a server and I like the social dynamics of small communities (a la the legendary <i>Meridian 59</i>, where random strangers would babysit your shit if you got ganked and were doing a corpse run). Sort of like a small town/big city thing.

Since I have a lot of time on my hands and I feel guilty about not nerdilating in a while, I’ve gone back to it. I’m working on a data type for creatures that I could use to implement humanoids roughly as easily as a degenerate version of Lovecraft’s Elder Things that I’m eyeing for a playable race. I’m wrestling with schemes for job variation, from race-by-race variations of character classes to loosely defined skillsets to point-buy freeform character generation. I’m considering inventing a script to interact with the “magic engine” of the game, so that D&D Wizard-style characters can write their own spellbooks and argue over the efficiency or efficacy of one incantation over another. I’m going to allow characters go take on NPC buddies to adventure with, thus making it easier for the game to tolerate soloing while still being a group challenge, and also to pad the in-game population. I’m doing this because I want to do it; I’m planning to give it away, although it’s effect of padding my resume might be beneficial. It also seemed a Righteous and Noble effort to make.

And TD: Synecdoche, from memory, is the act of referring to an object/entity by one of it’s constituent parts. “Get your <i>ass</i> to Mars.” is an example of synecdoche.

I do figure you probably know that, but I’m feeling contrary.

That sounds kind of similar to a project I was thinking of for a while. It would be a website that would put together info on every single game in the Final Fantasy series, and allow people to easily see the relationships between the games as well as their relationships to the outside world and other games. Also I’d have a full story listing and character and place pages for every game. I wouldn’t make any money off of it, but it’s something I want to do.

Er, wait…

Cid > >

Give it a try Kraken, it sure is Noble and Hard. What’s the story?

(My lack of gaming comment was tongue in cheek. After all these posts are made here, which is not public for purposes of the question).

How about a project where we put together info on every single RPG, based on the hard work and enthusiasm of all who join the staff, of whom most would not just troll Setz on the forums and talk about porn in the chat but actually do a good chunk of site work once in a while.

Er, wait…

I don’t have a sweeping backstory <i>per se</i>; in the spirit of games created by hackers for hackers, I want to give people a nice sandbox to play in. I’ll probably also have to come up with some other scripts to make the game data-driven; not a revolutionary concept, of course.

Yeah, my family knows I’m big into games since my parents are the ones that got me into them and all my friends do. My co-workers better fucking know it too considering we test them for a living.

It’s pretty public but then hell, games are alot more mainstream than they were seemingly a little while ago, so it’s not that shameful to admit it now.

Everyone knows I play lots of videogames.

But no matter how hard I try, I always lose against my girlfriend. ;_;

My entire town plays WoW and I’m responsible.

Do you still play on KJ Shin. I never see you

Everyone I know and most I dont know knows about my gaming habits.