Champions of Norrath 2

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Wow. Does this game ever suck compared to the first. It’s non-linear gameplay, and instead of just going in a straight line through the game, you have to go on missions, which are hideously all the same, and uninteresting. In the first Champions of Norrath, really, you can beat the game without blocking one single hit. But, in the next installment, you must do so for every boss. The first boss kills you in 5 seconds if you don’t block all it’s attacks. Even for non-boss enemies, such as cyclopses in the Plane of Torment. They fucking rush you, then attack you non-stop, unless they are hit, or you get out of range. Does anyone else find this ridiculously stupid? They don’t stop attacking, so you have to block it, then jump-dodge back, then hit them. Even then, get in hitting range, and you’re dead from it. This is why you must always bring at least 1 kind of projectile weapon. Not even all of the characters can use projectile weapons. It’s good I chose the Vah Shir Beserker, all they really do is make throwing axes with magic, and well, use them. I think Snowblind wanted me to import a character from Champions of Norrath, into Return to Arms. 'cause it’s so fucking difficult. I liked how in the beginning, you could choose to be on the dark side, or the just side; I chose the just side. But really, I don’t think it really makes a difference. :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyways, my character fucking rocks in the game.

Name: Setz
Level: 14
Class: Vah Shir Beserker
Armor: 396
Attack: 317
HP: 286/286
MP: 114/114
Strength: 81
Intelligence: 48
Dexterity: 72
Stamina: 79

I can do 125 damage with a summoned throwing axe (44-58), and it’s awesome. I kill most simple enemies in one hit. I enchanted my throwing axes, so they deal 4-8 shock damage as well, and this enchants all of my throwing axes. I make 40 axes every 2 minutes, so they can’t possibly run out.

Yeah.

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ahem
Kalia
Level 80 Wood Elf Ranger (max level)
Health: 1825
Mana: 783
Armor: 1677
Attack: 2015
Damage: 1213-1471 / 1654-1741 (dual wield)
Strength: 704
Intelligence: 215
Dexterity: 388
Stamina: 444

Critical Hit + Multi Arrow completely owns any boss in the game, and Entangle + Penetrating Arrow takes care of most normal enemies. (Tormentors are no threat when they can’t even move.)

Speaking of Tormenters, they will stop attacking eventually, they throw some left and right punches, then do an overhand double-hand smash. After they do this, you have a break to hit them. (You won’t have seen the last of them in the Plane of Torment: the Snowmen in the Plane of Storms are identical.)

Most bosses are only tough on Adventurous, on the higher difficulties you’ll have enough skills to fight decently.

And Good Side and Evil Side are almost the same, with a few differences:

  1. Plane of War’s second half is completely different (Evil Side’s gives massive exp)
  2. Plane of Water has different caves (Good Side’s are really, really annoying)
  3. Plane of Disease has a different first area (Again, Evil Side gives more exp due to the sperm donors)
  4. Faydark Forest is backwards between the two sides
  5. Different last boss (Good is easy, Evil is ridiculously hard)
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Holy shit. Whoah, that’s incredible! D:

Anyways, I’m now in the Plane of Valor, and level 17. I can’t seem to beat that Plane of Flame place.

edit; is it just my copy of the game, or does the game sometimes glitch-up? If I walk to a certain point, then quickly turn the other way, I’m literally seeing a black scenery, then the game decides to load up.

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I have a question.

I never played the first Champions of Norath. I heard you need to have one of those special hook-ups or something for the PS2.

What all do you need for it? Do you just play it like a normal CD, or do you need something like a playonline server or something?

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I haven’t seen that happen, although the game does have a lot of glitches, and some get really annoying.

As for Amon, you just play it like any other game, put it in the PS2. If you want to play it online, you need the PS2 online adapter, but that’s all.

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Okay. Just wanted to know if the adapter was needed to play the game by yourself.

I was thinking of buying it.

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Yeah, you can play it offline (up to four players) just normally. (Well, with the other adapter you need for four players, anyway.) Stupid Sony, not putting four controller slots on the system itself.

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Amon, I highly suggest buying the first Champions of Norrath. If you liked Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance, then this game is the game for you. The music in the first one is superb, and the gameplay is unmatched in quality.

edit; Does the game (RTA) sometimes freeze at the loading screen, like it does on my copy of Champions of Norrath (1)? That was so annoying. Also, how do you import characters into RTA? I guess they found a way to fix the duping trick.

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It’s frozen for me on the loading screen once before, now I’m scared to do the Plane of Fire and save at every chance.

To import characters, hit Triangle on the character select screen. And I’m not sure what the duping trick was in CoN, but there’s plenty of duping tricks in RTA.

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edit; by importing a character, I meant actually importing during game-play, not during a new game.

Can you tell me some? :slight_smile:

In CoN, you could duplicate items by starting a game, and when you have the items you want to dupe, save the game with that character, then Import that same character into the game as Player 2. Drop all the items, pick it up with player one, save, redo. Easy way to get money and stuffs.

In CoN, it’d freeze on me multiple times during the loading screen as I’m on the Vanarhost quest. I had to get my disc cleaned for it to fully work again.

Anyways, I’ve completed RTA, but with a friend. I needed help on the Plane of Fire, since I’d die to all of the bosses there, but then I had the idea to let me friend block, then I hit, and when it changed targets to me, my friend would hit it. He was level 5, I was level 18. We went through all of the game then, and it was really fun. We found it laughable to beat that Red Dragon without getting hit. Just jump back when he blows fire, and stay there; he won’t move. We had a hard time on that Yeti dude, but I had an idea to let me friend run in circles around the area, and let the yeti follow him, then I’d just dispatch axes at him. At level 28, I could do a maximum of 500 with a throwing axe, and maybe 200 with a sword. My friend could do 200 with a sword, but 700 with Slam, as a level 20. It was pretty funny how the last boss (good side) was incredibly easy. My friend died to it, but I managed to kill it without his help. I was hoping for Innoruuk to return, but nope. =/

Just wondering, on the game box of RTA, there’s a picture of that shaman woman from the start, Innoruuk, and some guy in green armor. Who is that guy?

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Basically, you start a new two (or more) player game, and import the same character into it for every character, and have all of them but one dump the items you want, and have one player pick them all up. Now import the player carrying all the items into a new game.

Alternatively, let’s say you have Warrior with some items you want to dupe. Import Warrior into a two player game with his buddy Wizard. Give Warrior’s items to Wizard. Save the game. Now import the ORIGINAL Warrior and the new Wizard into the same game, and give Warrior’s items back to him.

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Okay. I’m stuck on Mitharnial Marr on Courageous mode. I can take out half his HP, then he fucking owns me. If I were to start a new game on Adventurous, and reloaded my level 46 from the Courageous file, is it possible I could fight him on easy?

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I don’t think you can. On Adv you were on the Good path, so the last plane will always be the Plane of Fear. The game considers each difficulty to be its own path, so if you went back to Adv from Cour it’d consider the missions depending on what you had told Natalsa on THAT difficulty. That said, I’ve never actually fought Double M, so I can’t really help with that. (I’m always good.)

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I beat it. Had a real fucking tough time though. I got another player, a duplicate of my character, to hit the dude, and I throw axes at the boss. When 2nd player dies, I exit mission, save, bring back 2nd player, go back, and repeat. Took about an hour. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Wait, so you are complaining cause Champions of Norrath 2 is harder?

I personally liked the fact that you need to block. It gave a POINT to being a “tank” in the group so that the casters and rangers could attack from range and be kept safe.