Asking for all story reviews?

I was refering to your trumpeting of not reading 984’s posts. Anyway, we’ll just have to agree to disagree (again). In my view, when an author puts up a piece of fanfiction they do it because they want to show it to people, and by chosing to read it the reader automatically makes a silent agreement to look at the author’s work, trusting the author to not shit all over the original tale the reader and the author both make naturally assumed claims to be fans of. If the author breaks that silent agreement, the reader ought to be free to bring it up. Even good stories can always get better and concrit is something that authors who actually give a rat’s ass are generally thankful for.

I’ve read too much bullshit fanfiction in my day to bother shutting up any longer, and I won’t be silenced so bah, and bah again. Also there’s a huge difference between concrit and flaming, though a lot of people unfortunately don’t know the difference.

When you’ve been at RPGC as long as I have, you figure out how to tell what kind of poster someone is right off the bat. If I thought that this guy was actually going to ever post again, I would have been a little more polite. But I see he has made one, bad post. My instincts tell me that he will never post here again regardless of my participation. We’ll see, maybe this time I will be proven mistaken. But usually I have a good instinct on this. To my knowledge I have never “trolled” the media forum, out of respect for Weiila. If i ever DO go to the Media forum I try to be as polite as possible cuz she’s a nice lady.

This however, is the Shrine Review forum, which shouldn’t exist anyway cuz nobody works on shrines anymore.

Since when have I been “trumpeting” about it? I don’t read his posts because I can’t stand him, which is my right; he’s hardly the only person here I ignore. But that has nothing to do with this topic anyway.

Anyway, we’ll just have to agree to disagree

That is fair. Remember, my examination above wasn’t meant just for you; I’ve been meaning to sit down and write a full examination of the topic for a while, so I just took the chance.

I’ve read too much bullshit fanfiction in my day to bother shutting up any longer,

That explains a lot.

and I won’t be silenced so bah, and bah again.

Nobody asked for that.

Also there’s a huge difference between concrit and flaming, though a lot of people unfortunately don’t know the difference.

That was one of my points above, if you choose to read it fairly.

Or better yet, forget about it.

Why dont you two just get a room already?

Why don’t you two just get a room already?

:hahaha;:hahaha;:hahaha;

Do you understand what “Get a room” means in america?

Also this The Room video you posted is not funny. I would rather watch the movie they’re sposed to be making fun of.

Well, I guess your right. I haven’t been anywhere near as active as you or many others for that matter (and I am relatively new to forums in general… only recently becoming an active poster.) So yeah, I guess I got to pick them out better.

This however, is the Shrine Review forum, which shouldn’t exist anyway cuz nobody works on shrines anymore.

I have to say that this sub-forum is essential. I believe there are still people working on shrines (I myself am one of them) and I would like to see this website continue it’s long and proud tradition of shrining! Shrines are what made RPGC so great… so many people have made their contribution through it… and in turn, left their mark. I also hope to contribute as this website, has served well over the years as well as to many others! I understand that RPGC has created a “wiki” and intends to continue the shrines in that way… but it’s not the same! jumping out of his seat and yelling… tears coming to his eyes! I intend to question this in the polling forum shortly… just to get everyone else’s ideas!

Helios: You’re a breath of fresh air :slight_smile: We need more newbies like you.

Charle: When I call you troll, it’s in the nicest way possible, though you did earn some creeper points in that thread about missing my sister.

Right, back to the discussion about writer morals, last round and then I’ll really leave it.

“Nobody asked for that” you say, Wil, but what you really are saying is “if you don’t have anything nice to say…”, which can be translated to the fanbrat howl of “don’t like, don’t reeead!”. Which you’ve also said in other words.

I’ll lay down why I feel like I do about concrit and fanauthors like this:

When I was taking care of the RPGC fanfic archive there were loads of good stories submitted. But there was also an awful lot of crap, and I spent countless hours delicately constructing silk gloved responses to these authors and in the nicest way possible explain that no, your script fic based on toilet humor isn’t quite what we’re looking for, and sorry but your Mary Sue/Sephiroth porn is too graphic to be published. Then there were those who plagarized (one mindnumbingly stupid one plagarized the dialogue out of one of MY stories and sent it to me) and those got a bit harsher responses but it was still overly polite and apologetic from my end. Not forgetting those crapfic authors who harassed me until I agreed to post their half-assed stuff because I was too nice to hit Ignore like I should have.

It got really, really frustrating. And what finally made me go “screw this!” and toss my moldy silk gloves in the trash was this. In short, a guy comes in and posts a really bland, boring and stupid script fic. People kindly (well, apart from Sorc) tell him that they didn’t find it good, and why. And he throws the most drama queeny brat tantrum I’ve seen for something like that. Then I come in and try to chill things, writing another one of my silken-gloved reviews but all the while I was wondering why I was trying to pacify this little brat who aggressively turned on my friends FOR NOTHING. Sorc’s reaction to the whole thing was freakin’ cathartic to me because he said things I had been thinking for years in response to this RPGDude. Val, Chris-Chris and the others did NOT deserve that kind of idiotic response, and that was the final drop for me.

Also, on 984 and you:

(Offhand, the search function on the new forum version is awful.)

I’m not bringing it up because I think you’re breaking 984’s heart with this. I brought it up as an example of why I didn’t read your post about writing: Not only do I already know your points and wasn’t interested in rereading them, I also find you pretty childish. That Marvel thread is a prime example of why I think so: You post a piece that has a bend that by its very topic invites to discussion, and then you get annoyed when, GASP, people on a discussion board wants to DISCUSS it with you. Val sums my thoughts up pretty well on the second page, as well as Eden with his second line above Val’s post.

And I realize it’s hypocritical of me to critize you for not wanting a discussion on something when I’m not (re)reading your arguments, but that’s one rock I have to throw in this glass house. I don’t aim to win this discussion because I know it’s pointless to try to convert anybody in viewpoints like these. At this point I’m just venting annoyance that has built for ages, and I can admit that.

Okay I’m done, I feel much more at ease.

Helios: IT’S YOU’RE!!!

Weiila: Can you blame me?

I disagree. If someone thinks their writing isn’t good enough to be read they may add a small tag along the lines of “Please don’t read this” and save the reader the hassle. The time you spend to read [bad fanfic] could be used to read [favourite author]. The reason you read a story is because you hope it’ll be interesting*.

*or a trainwreck, eh, Weiila?

Wow, Weiila. You really surprise me here. I thought you were more open-minded than that… you certainly aren’t getting my real points across, since you keep insisting in saying that I’m favoring not offering criticism at all. At least you admit that you’re biased because of your bad experiences. Also, you know almost nothing of my problems with 984 or how long it took me to finally decide to ignore him which was NOT an easy choice for me so don’t get uppity there. But, if that’s how you want to see things, that’s your choice. I won’t argue it anymore.

Oh, I will still post my opinions on the subject of fanfic reviewing when I feel it’s appropriate. I just won’t argue with you.

And I bear you no ill will. Believe it or not I do respect your opinions. Though you probably won’t read this so you will not find out.

exits thread

Thanks! :slight_smile: I simply love this place.

I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you mean?


Also Wil and Weiila, there’s no need to feud… for what it’s worth, this place is like one giant family and you both have been here since almost day one! It’s human to have different opinions/perspectives and it’s practically impossible to understand the human mind. Everyone one of us, while we may have similarities… are incredibly diverse and that’s what makes us so interesting. I’ve read all your posts in this thread and you all have valid arguments! (in my opinion) The bottom line is you both are incredible fanfic authors and you both have your own unique perspectives. It’s what makes this place all the more interesting! :slight_smile:

Naw, Helios, don’t worry about it. I admit this is less about us disagreeing about literary criticism and more about the fact that we’ve both been here for years, and Wil’s patronizing ways have always annoyed me to a lesser or greater degree. This is just the first time I’ve said so, and I’ve finally put him on ignore so that this doesn’t happen again - I haven’t done so before because he’s not always patronizing and does have his points too. It’s not worth getting lower than this about.

As for what Charle said about “It’s you’re”, it’s an oooooold in-joke from where a dude named MegamanX2K used to hang on the board and get increasingly annoyed with people who wrote “your” when it should be “you’re”. At least I THINK it was he who started it.

And thanks for the compliment :slight_smile:

Rig: “Please don’t read”, now that made me chuckle. That could be a solution, now couldn’t it?

And oh yes, hypnotizing, shining train wrecks…

My dream is to find something even more bizarre than Burning for You. I’d link to the only remaining review of it (the story seems to have disappeared completely), on the livejournal community ficbitches, but it’s partly pornographic (though it’s kinda hard to tell beneath all that urple prose). All one needs to know about it is this paragraph in which Ganondorf, GANONDORF, struggles with his love for Link.

No! Never! Much renowned of gorgeously Arabesque countenance and eyes of scorching copper, one could easily argue my being quite the pretty thing for all my masculinity. My taut figure ripples the cool waters of all things male, just as the cinder lengths of my hair fall gleaming and pleasing towards both sexes. I am not so easily affected by beauty, of any kind, for I am the very pylon streaking across loveliness’ polychromatic sky! I am a seducer, no mere toy of Nayru or any ‘love god’.

And on and on and on and on it goes… it’s so bad it’s beaootiful.

Oh okay, yeah I missed that, lol! I try to make sure that my grammar’s right in all my posts (as you may have seen with all the edits I do xD) …but I miss the occasional one, lol.

And thanks for the compliment :slight_smile:

No problem.

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