You think they're making another FF game?

That’s Heresy!

or Latin?

Question is; is this the game that’s to show up on the Wii (or the 360)?

Wait, Squeenix has a deal with the X-Box? Since when?

They haven’t announced anything, but there are swarms of rumors. Honestly, they’d be shooting themselves in the foot if they left FF13 as a PS3-exclusive given the horrid sales it’s having.

Wouldn’t they cross-platform it to the Wii, what with their contract with Nintendo?

I 'unno. Do they have a contract with Nintendo?

I thought so, what with the DS releases and whatnot.

Well, there was FFXI for the 360…

Maybe they’ll go the Dragon Quest route and bring one of the FFXIII games to the DS.

Well the FFXII sequel is for the DS, isnt it?

Maybe they’ll bring it to the PC then everybody’ll win.

Except for those without a PC.

Didn’t Square say they’d never make another game for a Nintendo console way back when they were doing FFVII? I guess they changed their minds since then. :stuck_out_tongue:

No, I think that someone high up in the Square heirarchy said that, back when Nintendo wasn’t the system-of-choice for various reasons (you really can’t put FMVs of any substance onto a N64), and now that they’ve merged with Enix, and Nintendo has better options available, they’re doing things differently.

Sorry for answering late, I just understood what you meant. Yes, it’s Latin, after the Greek word αίρεσις (edit:Wikipedia confirms it’s simple transliteration), which means the same heresy does; it originally meant “choice”. We are all for choices, unless they are the wrong ones :stuck_out_tongue:

I’d be really surprised if they made FFXIII non-exclusive to PS3, despite Sony getting two years ahead of gamers with this release. If the PS3 continues to bomb, I doubt SE would go with them for XIV.

Making FF13 non-exclusive would make by far the most sense fiscally. The PS3 started low and has been in a nosedive ever since. If it totally failed I’d be one happy camper. And all it’d take for that to happen would be for two games (FF13 and MGS4) to turn up on the XBOX360.

Game companies solely associated with Sony have been jumping ship for a while now due to the terrible results of the PS3. If Sony actually lose SE, it’s fucked like no company has ever been fucked before.

http://www.vgcharts.org/

9.8M: 360
6.3M: Wii
2.7M: PS3

It’s still very early. More PS3’s were sold the first three months of 2007 than 360s over the same time period in '06. The rumored price cut for the upcoming holiday season will help.

But even at $500, the $100 warranty, $50 controllers, and $60 games add up to a minimum cost of $700-$1000 that many families and the majority of gamers simply cannot afford. To truly justify the cost, you need a television capable of receiving a 1080p signal that is HDCP (DRM FTW!) compliant, which means your television needs to be at most two years old. So add another $1500 to $4000+ for the television. And oh yeah - what games are available for the PS3 right now?

From a third party perspective, there’s not much incentive to spend millions developing a game exclusively for the PS3, which has 1/3 of the footprint of the XBox.

The Best Buy where I live can’t keep PS3’s on the shelf. There’s 6 one day, none a few days later. They are selling, not gathering dust. But they really shit on their fans by pricing them out of the market, and a lot of former fans now swear to never by Sony’s console. But time will tell…Sony intends for the PS3 to have a 10 year life span.

Sony isn’t run by idiots. They took a calculated risk, knowing full well that in the past, high priced consoles have failed miserably. You have to keep in mind that a majority of Sony’s profits come from their consumer electronics division (high priced televisions, etc.), so the PS3 is really just a small part of a bigger picture. For some reason they were more intent on BLU-Ray winning the DVD format war than a PS3 slam dunk. They would have obliterated the XBox had they released a $299 non BLU-Ray console before the 360’s release. Maybe they feel their overall health will be better the quicker the public embraces HD resolution, and they decided to use the PS3 to force the public’s hand. There’s almost no profit margin left in producing normal DVD players and low resolution televisions anymore; that market has been commoditized. High resolution, and for some reason, BLU-Ray, is where Sony wants to go, and it’s almost as if they’re saying “if you can’t afford a PS3, you can’t afford HD movies and televisions, so take your business elsewhere.”

Perhaps they might be arguing that they’re only looking for the “hardcore gamer” dollar, and perhaps reasoning that though there are fewer of these, the dollars per customer would be higher, so they’d break even. But even hardcore gamers aren’t bothering with PS3’s - a PS3 is only as good as its games, and the third-party developers generally aren’t interested in only hardcore gamers. If those developers don’t provide the games, the PS3 dies. End of story.

Just some other notes that might have influenced Sony’s decision (is this OT or what):

On 2/17/09, in the US, analog television (SDTV) comes to an end and all broadcasts must be digital (DTV). Digital is ~NOT~ high definition though (HDTV); HDTV is just a format of DTV. You’ll just need a cheap converter (that the gov’t may even give away) for your old TV. So this change won’t impact anything - it doesn’t force a television upgrade, and I don’t see how this change impacts Sony or has anything to do with PS3 strategy. http://www.dtv.gov/ for more info.

From Sony’s 2006 annual report:

Breakdown of Sony’s 57 billion in sales for (fiscal) 2006:

64%: Electronics (TV’s, Cameras, etc., posted huge losses)
12%: Gaming (PSP, PS2, etc., but lost most of profits due to PS3 development)
9%: Movies
9%: Financial Services
5%: Other

Question to Electronics CEO Ryoji Chubachi: You have said that without a recovery in televisions, Sony’s electronics business will not recover. What specific measures are you implementing to revive the television business?

Answer: In addition to strengthening the Group’s overall performance, we must rebuild our television business.

Question: What can you tell us about the two growth strategies you have referred to as “HD World” and “creating value through new product categories”?

Answer: Sony has an extensive range of highly respected broadcast - and consumer-use high-definition (HD) hardware. The Electronics Revitalization Plan’s first strategy is to further expand our efforts to promote the transition to HD. …we plan to launch our first Blu-ray Disc player in the United States. We expect the Blu-ray Disc format will be a driver of growth for HD-related businesses. Sony is the only company positioned to offer both a broad selection of HD hardware and a large library of HD content. Our goal is thus to grow this HD-related business into a major profit pillar.

So the PS3 being BLU-Ray is all about their Electronics Revitalization initiative to get people buying HD displays. That explains alot. I’m still curious about their BLU-Ray fetish over HD-DVD, but I’m sure the answer is easy enough to find if I’d just look.

And just one more comment in the report for those in the HDTV market:

To promote the development of next-generation display devices, we established the Display Device Development Group. We will focus on self-luminous organic light-emitting diode (OLED) displays, which deliver high-speed response to moving images and excellent color reproduction and are attracting attention for use in nextgeneration thin displays.

That’s one thing that stands out when browsing the HDTV’s - a lot of motion makes the picture get very blurry on any type screen. So that $3500 dollar Bravia you’re drooling over might be obsolete next year.