Windows has now officially assimilated IE...

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Originally posted by Tenchimaru Draconis
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Hah, TD fucked up

<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> Lies. Vicious lies.

What Stevus said about the User Friendly stuff is true.

The only reason I keep my Win98 just like that is because I don’t want to have to be babysitting my parents everytime they need to make a word document. Especially since they don’t even know how to use Win98 -_-

Originally posted by Wertigon
[b]Nul: Those aren’t news, I agree. The news are that there will be no mayor versions of IE until Windows Longhorn comes out (Which will take atleast two more years). Heck, there won’t be any new versions of IE at all until then. It’s now official.

And Longhorn will be the first version of Windows that uses Palladium (you know, that software/hardware thingamajingie that lets Microsoft take over your computer should they choose to, and dictates what you can and cannot run). So getting an IE upgrade requires you to sign away your freedom to someone you have to trust, regardless if you like it or not…

Oh, and Vorpy: http://agora.rpgclassics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10206 [/b]

You are once again outdated: It’s months since they renamed Palladinium to ‘Next Generation Security Platform’. Although: Everyone knows Windows 1984 would have been a far more suiting name.

Internet Explorer was a good browser: Back in the days when they kept up with the standards. Now they’ve even stopped developing their own, want to be, standards. Or that is my impression.

I wish I didn’t have XP, sadly. It came with Space Cadet Pinball. My parents won’t let me use it for five minutes without kicking me off and playing that damn game. That, and three out of five Quest for Glory’s won’t work on it.

User Friendly is good, but to find a system that’s so simple that a moron could use it, and yet doesn’t crash constantly is impossible. To do this, you’d have to sacrifice 100 virgins, paint their blood over a church, set it on fire, kill your family, and finally sell your soul to Satan to seal the deal.

Originally posted by d Galloway
I wish I didn’t have XP, sadly. It came with Space Cadet Pinball. My parents won’t let me use it for five minutes without kicking me off and playing that damn game. That, and three out of five Quest for Glory’s won’t work on it.

The games if one of the few things Microsoft allows you to uninstall: Just go to Control Panel - Uninstall - Add/Remove Windows Components. And they should be there somewhere. When your parents ask you where the game went, just blame Bill Gates: He’s blameable for everything.

Userfriendly is nice, but it shouldn’t be synonym to: Block the user from doing anything. Nor should it push more imporant things, such as security into the back.

I told my Dad that a virus ate the Solitarie. Everytime I want to get them off the PC I can just say that a Cpr1000 virus is on the PC and I have to eliminate it.

Sadly, they buy it.

MS settled their monopoly case with the Department of Justice over the browser recently. MS’s main defense was the browser and windows are integrated, hence they HAD to market it like they did. to stay out of court, they MUST continue to further integrate the browser with the OS. MS just announced they’ll no longer support a browser for the Mac, which means Safari will become the leading Mac browser. microsoft is pulling out of the standalone browser business, because the DoJ forced them to. also of note, Mozilla is stronger than ever, and from what I’ve heard, microsoft sites that only worked with IE are suddenly becoming mozilla compliant.

MS will use this to their advantage to expand further. they already own 90% of the browser market, and an integrated browser will force people to buy a new OS in order to have the most current browser. so blame the DoJ, Netscrape, and AOHell for this.

as corporate portals and business intelligence software become more commonplace, the browser is going to be the most important piece of software on a corporate computer. and security is of the utmost importance.

bottom line with the DRM and “Next-Generation Secure Computing Base” is they’re beefing up security. if a “janitor” steals a notebook from an exec at a corporate office, they can easily have access to sales figures, contacts, recipes, research, business plans, etc. it’s a likely scenario that could easily cost a company millions - potentially billions - of dollars. hence they need to have a more secure browser, that isn’t standalone and portable and everything else IE currently is.

Actually, Microsoft paid AOL about $750M to AOL to make them stop when AOL could’ve gotten much more had they followed through with their lawsuit.

And IIRC it was the other way around; Microsoft got sued in the first place BECAUSE IE was integrated into the environment.

Nul: I know they changed name, I’ve known for quite a while. But Palladium is still the most widespread name for it. And I think Palladium is good for some things - like a multimedia machine (like X-box). But for a full-blown home/work PC? Not a chance in hell. The system is just too easy to abuse, and abuse will happen whether you like it or not.

And I’m with Nul on this one; User Friendlyness is good, but NOT when it means my personal integrity is at stake. Linux is not ready for the home desktop quite yet, since it still requires you to know things if you want to administrate it, but it is user friendly. Just NOT for the system admin.

Lol, I hope it doesen’t take over my ub3r 1337 text browser… Hehe, I’m on Unix now.

Text browsers rule! X-D~~~

Originally posted by Wertigon
Text browsers rule! X-D~~~

In some ways yes, but I’m not a big fan of scrolling around without a mouse… Oh well…

wert wrote:

<< And IIRC it was the other way around; Microsoft got sued in the first place BECAUSE IE was integrated into the environment. >>

microsoft got sued for trying to eliminate the competition for including IE with their OS. MS’s main defense in court was that it HAD to be bundled because it’s integrated with the OS. the integration was their defense. if i had time i’d post a link, look it up for yourself.

Fine, it doesn’t change the fact they paid Netscape out of business.

nope, sure doesn’t. and it doesn’t change the fact that in 2005 non-MS integrated browsers will be getting error messages like this:

“We’re sorry. You must be using a browser integrated with the Windows Operating system in order to view this page. To buy it, click here.”