Aww, and for my 30th last Friday a bunch of my friends and I met downtown for drinks at a tapas lounge… thanks for calling me a loser guys. :\
You’re not a loser, Vicki.
You’re old.
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(Please don’t hit me. lav? :3)
oO. I don’t know what kinda bars you go to, but the places I go to actually -are- fun, and have people inside them who’re genuinely having a good time. 
Well maybe because I’m there, because I’m the fun! =D no but seriously, maybe 10% of the people there fit into the “boring people who like pissing away their evenings to put on a pathetic fake front of being social while getting plastered and flailing around to shitty music to forget that they’re fuck-ups” - category, and those are mostly the like 40-50 year olds sitting at the counter, smoking one aig after another and not really bothering anyone because they already belong to the inventory (and some of them are actually quite fun to talk to, interesting even if often pathetic life stories). I don’t really see any “young folks faking a good time” here, if, at all, they hit the discos. Or, should they accidentally find their way into “our” bars, they don’t really stay for that long.
I’m assuming we simply have a different bar culture here. But it’s definitely a superb one! :toast:
Uuugh, I hear you, guys. I hate bars too. Only time I go to them are when my best friend is visiting and wants to go. Sometimes I do enjoy it, when there aren’t many people there and they aren’t blasting music like crazy. I don’t get that music thing. Why does it need to get so loud?
I was in Germany when I turned 25, and there was one guy at the course I was at that got totally weirded out by my unwillingness to party. It went something like this:
Him: “So, what bar are you going to celebrate at?”
Me: “None. I don’t like bars.”
Him: “But… you’re turning twenty-five!”
Me: “So? I don’t like crowds, loud noises or drinking. Why would I go to a bar then?”
Him: “Because you only turn twenty-five once, of course.”
Me: “Uh… I wouldn’t enjoy it. Shouldn’t I do something that I’d like to do as a celebration?”
Him: “But… you’re turning twenty-five!”
Houston, we have a communications problem.
I don’t drink, but I went to a bar once, just for the experience of it. I stuck to 7-up.
It would have been mostly unmemorable if not for the crazy drunk woman in the corner who was screaming about her tits. I don’t recall the specifics.
Order Gimlets. They can’t really skip on the liquor in those.
Ever go to a sports bar to watch a game?
Ever go out with your girlfriend to play pool / darts / just hang out with friends?
Ever have your coworkers take you out after work to celebrate a promotion / accomplishment, or do so for someone else?
Ever just walk into a dive bar for a few because you had nothing better to do, and just see what happens?
Ever go out for a bachelor party?
Ever go out to a bar that has great bar food to eat?
Ever go out with friends to enjoy a rare or seasonal highly rated beer on tap?
Ever score with someone at a bar, or even get digits?
I’m gonna guess you’ll have to answer no to all these questions, because otherwise you wouldn’t have started this thread that makes you look like you’ve never been outside. Like I said, there are a wide variety of bars and a wide variety of stuff you can do at bars. They are a part of human culture I guess you’ve yet to experience.
It seems to me you are only looking at the club scene, which you are obviously not suited for, and judging all “bars” based on your sad experiences with your loser friends who are obviously not fun to drink with. You seriously need to get out more and make new friends, experience life.
Locke, you are exactly the kind of person Weiila is talking about. The kind who just can’t comprehend anyone not liking the bar scene if they’ve ever “really” experienced it.
I’ve done most of the things in your list (except the last one because I’m not a desperate sexually frustrated decadent who turns into a collar-popping retard at the slightest mention of pussy) and any fun I’ve had doing them was <b>IN SPITE OF</b> being at a bar, not because of it.
Bars are shitty places for me to go because of what they are at their core: anti-social. People go there to get inebriated and shut the world OUT, or because their friends do. They don’t go to experience “culture,” assuming that wasn’t just a really shitty joke from you. When I’m out I need to talk to people and interact with things to have fun, and this is almost impossible in most bars and clubs and still pointlessly frustrating in the quieter ones.
Changing venues doesn’t help. Playing pool doesn’t help. Picking up the kind of girls who go to bars to be picked up wouldn’t help. Drinking seasonal beer wouldn’t help. These are all things people do to maintain the illusion of bars being social enough not to be embarrassing places to go, when their sole purpose is really to blunt social exposure and help people forget their lives are shit for a few short hours on the weekend.
And that IS their sole purpose. Even if you’ve been to them and forced yourself to be social and have fun, you’d be fucking retarded to suggest that bars are actually conducive to these things.
It’s great when two people are dead set on the fact that they’re hot shit and cannot agree with one another about what it is that that entails.
Even greater when the first one is working on false premises and the second one is not.
But on the other hand, Hades, aren’t you failing to comprehend how anyone COULD have fun in a bar by saying “People that go to bars aren’t actually having fun?” It’s like, if you don’t have fun at bars, that’s cool. But, I think it’s another thing to say that people at bars aren’t really having fun. You’re not them - hell, you probably don’t even know them very well. If you don’t have fun at a bar, it’s probable you don’t even relate to them, either. So, how can you accurately measure how much fun they’re having?
I’m not saying I take Locke’s stance on the issue, but it doesn’t sound like yours is any more understanding - it’s just a diametrically opposed viewpoint.
That being said, I drank on my 21st. I didn’t go to a bar, though - I just went to a Chinese place, and I ordered a Tsing-Tao. I only drink to play beer pong, so it doesn’t suit me to drink more than that for any reason. I also enjoy going to bars infrequently. It’s fun to dance, and when I was single, it was fun to meet people in a “haha, I’m probably never going to see you again so let’s have a good time” kind of way. You could do that at a party, sure…but setting up a party costs money out of someone else’s pocket. While beer is expensive at a bar, at least that’s the only thing you pay for, and you don’t have to clean up afterwards. 
But no, I don’t go to bars often, and even less so now.
If I want to get great food, I’ll go to a restaurant. You know, those places that specialize in making good food. Here’s the kicker - they have alcohol, too.
SG, no I’m not. In a lot of cases I think that’s what’s happening, but when people do have genuine fun at bars I think it’s because they either don’t need to be social to have fun, or because they’re managing to be social in spite of being in a place that really discourages it in the worst way. I am neither of those people.
And I can tell when people aren’t having fun because they’re trying way to hard to make it look like they are. It’s an almost sarcastic kind of fun. The kind where you can tell they feel like shit even though they’re smiling. It’s hard to describe with words but I see it everywhere.
So let me get this straight - anyone who goes out for a drink at a bar, regardless of the occasion:
- only does so on the weekend.
- only goes to escape their life because it is shit.
- is 19.
- doesn’t socialize while there because it’s impossible.
- pays more than 4 times the going rate for drinks.
- flails around to shitty music.
- gets plastered.
- doesn’t have a good time, ever, no matter what.
I don’t usually troll, but you’re the worst kind of stupid. stop talking.
Hades, don’t troll and flame.
Well, I guess this discussion is over for me. I’m not sure how to argue with “I just know that people aren’t having fun/it’s obvious they’re not having fun.”
I didn’t mean to.
Intent has no bearing on our laws! Strict liability!
I get people who don’t like the bar scene. With friends, I prefer to have people over because it’s not as expensive and there are less distractions. However, the point I’m trying to make is there are an incredible variety of bars, an incredible variety of people who go to bars, and an incredible variety of reasons to go. Your stereotypes of what goes on at bars, who goes to bars, and why, are among the most ignorant things I’ve ever read.
If you’re only judging the “hot” dance clubs where all the 17 year olds go with their chalked ID’s and such, you’re pretty much dead on as far as I’m concerned. I remember Rumors in Ft. Erie when I was 19 :hahaha; However, that was a long time ago, and even though a bar isn’t my preferred venue (I’m more introverted / anti-social than most), there are a ton of reasons you’ll find yourself at them as you get older. I guess that’s assuming you have friends / family / co-workers who enjoy going out for a drink occasionally.