what you just want us to give all our money to the fucking poor you fucking commie?
I don’t get how people are making this about spreading the wealth. I never said anything even remotely hinting at wanting to do that. This thread is about integrity. I don’t give a shit about who’s poor and who’s not. This is me bitching about rich bastards making charity about glory.
So, how do you know they’re doing it for the glory?
Easy, if they weren’t, they’d either donate a lot more, or not publicize their donations. These are a half dozen multi-millionaires going “Hey look! $1000 to charity! Go me!”
The general process is to donate smaller amounts to a large number of charities, I believe. I believe the publicity of donations could be to inspire others to donate. Saying they should donate only in private is sort of analagous to arguing that those sitcom stars who tell you not to drink and drive during commercial breaks should shut the fuck up about it and just do it without needing to tell everybody, because you don’t drink and drive and nobody gives you a goddamn medal for it. While they are, in fact, famous people who are getting good publicity for doing this, they are also helping convince other people to do the same.
As for the wealth distribution, I believe it’s being made about that because it’s sort of what you’re advocating, if unintentionally; in arguing that they should share a larger percent of what they make, elsewise being greedy and thusly execrated, does it not follow that the higher that percent is, the better (if not, where would it be reasonable to draw the line)?
And is not a double-standard unless everyone should do similarly? That basically amounts to even distribution of wealth. Now, you may not mean to argue this; first, you could simply think that it would be better to give more to charity, not to give all the money beyond what they need to live an average life and retire on, to charity (although, your tone would not indicate an interpretation such as this); secondly, you could be engaging in a willing double-standard, although this argument (that the rich should give copiously to the poor) is laughably similar to Reaganomics. Essentially, calling for the rich to support the poor to a greater degree without calling for wealth redistribution is something of a shaky argument, from most views.
If you’re simply angry not at the amount, but rather at the fact that they didn’t get Solid Motherfucking Snake to donate the money for them without anyone knowing it, then the above less applies. However, that seems a rather petty reason to be angry, to me. They did a nice thing. Maybe I simply don’t have time to try and make myself even more miserable and pessimistic by dissecting every kindness into selfishnesses and cruelties.
I think Hades is more disturbed by the guys getting kudos while giving change money rather than for their non-socialist policies. Thus, a barely-subsisting pensioner who donates what little he can with almost no one [edit:knowing] about it would be more commendable.
I’m not calling for the rich to support the poor. I’m calling for the few rich who do support the poor to not do it for praise. If you’re gonna be selfish, do it right and just don’t donate, because anyone with that kind of money who actually does care would be giving a lot more than they did.
The general process is to donate smaller amounts to a large number of charities, I believe
I agree with this, but let’s look at the numbers. The poorest guy on that list, probably Mike Komisarek, makes $21 000 <i><b>per game</b></i>, and he probably only gets 20 minutes of ice time. What he’s telling Right To Play is that their organization isn’t worth 1 minute of his time. Lecavalier makes $94 000 per game. For playing what, 28 minutes?
If these guys gave a shit, AT ALL, they would NOT be throwing a mockery of a donation like $1000 at a charity that supports the development of the game they love. Unless they want to be praised by people who don’t realize just how little $1000 means to them. They are douchebags in saints’ clothing.
Also, Rig is right 
As a group and along with the NHL, they raised $24,000 along with a lot of free publicity for Chara’s charity, Right to Play. How do you know he hasn’t already given them a larger amount this year, but doesn’t find it necessary to engage in self-promotion? Do you know how much the other players give their own charities?
If I were a millionaire, I’d give out a LOT to charity. Both because I care, and because, to be honest, I have no idea what I would do with that much money. I mean, when you’re a multi-millionaire, at some point you get to have more money than you could ever spend (wisely, that is) so why not give it away? On the other hand, I’d do it in secret; while publicity is nice and it may encourage others to donate, if people get wind that you’re free with your money you get every freakin’ charity banging at your door, and let’s face it, not all are worth your help. To be honest, I’d rather donate to the Make A Wish foundation than to something like Right To Play. And even then, I’d hire people to investigate them first, JUST to make sure my donations are well-spent.
So you would rather the kids not have the money than someone get more credit than he deserves? I would rather they donate any amount for whatever reason. I mean, you’re talking about selfishness, but your baseline point is that you would rather a charitable organization have less money to help people with so you people you don’t like don’t get commended for helping those people. Basically, you’re saying you have the moral high ground in denying children over twenty thousand dollars so you don’t have to read a news article that irritates you.
So, how much should they give? Consider also that they don’t play that often, thus an hour or so could be a week’s work. Comparing this to the standard eight-hour day in the way you seem to be doing is rather logically flawed. Consider how much money the charity needs to do what it does; the no-kill animal shelter by my house doesn’t really need and wouldn’t really use the vast majority of a ten-million dollar donation without expanding into something big and rather ineffectual. At what arbitrary limit are they no longer giving “change money,” and thus deserving of commendation?
When detailing how much athletes get paid, I think most have a base salary. They then have other “incentives” built depending if they play, how much they actually play (minutes, snaps, etc), and other things of the like. They still have to practice, work out, etc. I don’t think any athlete puts in only one hour a week, even if they only have one game a week. It’s somewhat disingenuous to speak of “salary per game” if you’re looking at total value of the contract.
I was basing this on Hades’ assumptions that one is paid per game and thus given 21,000 for twenty minutes. If we are counting one being paid for more than those twenty minutes, then the amount given is worth more than a minute. If one is being paid for those twenty minutes, then a minute is a far more substantial amount of time.
Now, by comparison, NHL pros dont make nearly as much money as athletes in the other major sports. However, there are two sides to this coin, and these sides will bring out pragmatism over which side is right. I’m choosing not to take sides in this argument, but rather read the points on both sides and determine that professional athletes are way the fuck overpaid to begin with. Yeah, they work at their craft when they’re not getting face time, but still, for me it was always about doing something for enjoyment more than money. I already slave myself away at a factory on weekdays for money. I would like to get into better shape and join the local minor league hockey club in the town I live in, just because I love the game. Would I be making a substantially larger sum than what I make now working in a factory? Probably not, but what matters is that I had the chance to play the sport I love at a level other than high school or street. I used to have a dream of one day playing in the NHL, but the second strike and the rule changes ruined my viewpoint on it. As well as my smoking and drinking ruining my conditioning. But enough rambling about squandered dreams.
As far as giving to charity goes, I do. The United Way really helped me out when my home was damaged in a flood a year and a half ago. I feel the least I can do is give back.