She shoulda listened to me.

On July 8, 2003, my friend, Rose Taylor, got married at the age of 20 years old to a Mr. Doug Baker, who had known each other since the fifth grade.

Today, September 17, 2003, marks their divorce.

Now, I’m really not one to say I told you so (irl, at least, not sure here, since I tend to forget), but I kept telling her that the whole thing wouldn’t work out. For one thing, when A guy has a prison record, I really consider if marriage is such a good idea. Second, they’re both still in College, and marriage at ANY point in life is hectic at best, and when you get married in college, too much goes wrong. Third, from what I know of them, they have few things, if any, in common, really.

Finally, the guy is a damned cheatin’ bastard. I mean, we actually SAW him kissing another girl downtown. On numerous occasions. And lying about it afterwards.

I don’tr know why i’m posting this, it’s just really making me wonder about teenagers and how much of their lives are being thrown away by what they think is “true love”. It’s just something I’m rather livid about.

My sister did nearly the same thing, Val. Now she’s divorced, can barely hold down a job, and has a 6 year-old child to take care of. All because her guy cheated on her.

I don’t know why people cannot know these things about their sig other. I mean honestly, you have to suffer a lot together before you plan to share your lives and trust each other. It’s a simple concept to me and it confuses me as to why other people cannot understand this.

That’s because no one understands what true love is anymore, Eva. People become infatuated with one another, and don’t think things through. Basing a relationship on a thing like that will only end in tragedy.

Well, on the plus side, She broke it off with him before it got TOO bad. And she does realize nw that she’s really, really, really, REALLY bad at relationships.

Originally posted by Dalton Of Zeal
That’s because no one understands what true love is anymore, Eva. People become infatuated with one another, and don’t think things through. Basing a relationship on a thing like that will only end in tragedy.

Yeah that’s all it is these days is infatuation heavy sigh depressing stuff.

Originally posted by Evangelion
Yeah that’s all it is these days is infatuation heavy sigh depressing stuff.

Yeah, which is why I refuse to believe it. Coem on, there’s GOT to be true love out there for people! Most are just too stupid and inexperienced to recognize love from lust and etc.

True love is out there, you just have to search harder.

I told my younger sister the same thing when she had a 1/2 year long relationship (they knew each other about 2 years before). They fought too much and I warned her they weren’t going to last like that.

I guess im a bit jaded in that I dont believe in “True Love”. I dont really have a reason why, that is just the way I feel about it heh.

I think that two people can care about one another deeply, but people tend to throw the word love around so carelessly and effortless that to me, it has lost all meaning.

Sept 17 2003 is also the day my friend (very distant friend…more like casual aquintance) has her baby…

she is 16

Well, I won’t ever cheat on my significant other, because I’ll never have one. has depressed himself

Anyway, why don’t kids listen to us anymore? Marriage shouldn’t even be considered until you have a stable life, you know a LOT about the other one, and know that they won’t cheat on you (because, let’s face it, women cheat, too). Then you can get married, have kids, and turn ancient before you’re thirty.

As with most things in life, love can’t be generalized, but must be taken on a case by case basis. I believe in Love. I also believe in a very warped definition of Love at first sight, but that’s a specific instance, and might be wrong, but it doesn’t feel that way yet.

I do think people use the word love too much, especially when they mean lust, or when they’re not talking about a person. That’s another problem, people objectify others, and so they can’t really see what love is then.

But I still believe in Love…

Yeah, yeah, we’ve all heard it all before, Love and hate are used too much these days, they’ve lost a lot of their meaning, few people know what they really mean.

Guess what? It’s been like that for awhile. You don’t know what real Love or hate is until you experience it, and until you experience the real thing, you can confuse mild lust or disliking for the same. It’s kinda part of that scary thing called Growing up.

The problem is true love and truly meaningful relationships are hard-ass work that take a lot of time and effort.

You’ll note at this point that I’m unattached and not seeking. :smiley: Cuz, like, I didn’t know this last time, and I got burned bad. ANYWAY…

We’re an instant gratification culture now. Bigger Better Faster More. Quick Fix. I think this ties in somehow to “quick” marraiges and basing relationships or relationship prospects almost exclusively on looks.

We’ve probably conned ourselves (or let ourselves be conned by our commercial media) into thinking it’s quick and easy or at least it’s so when beautiful people are involved. So, when things hit “a rough patch” people think its totally wrong and throw in the towel.

[Higher divorce rates]

That’s the problem, though. There is no one special person. Nobody is “perfect” for you. Everybody, no matter how stunningly beautiful they are, shits turds out of their assholes. We’re all mortal, flawed, and dirty.

The trick is finding somebody whose good parts outweigh their bad parts, and the things they do that endear you to them are worth putting up with the things they do that piss you off.

And “he’s hot” or “she’s hot” is not a good part that outweighs the “infidelity” bad part.

I think love is very rare to find these days. As in true love. I think relationships are things that both people have to work hard at. Like you get to a stage where you keep someone hoping that you’ll progress your relationship with them. I think it’s quite rare for two people to just ‘click’ and find true love.

Originally posted by KaiserVonAlmasy
We’ve probably conned ourselves (or let ourselves be conned by our commercial media) into thinking it’s quick and easy or at least it’s so when beautiful people are involved. So, when things hit “a rough patch” people think its totally wrong and throw in the towel.

Which is rather incredible when one thinks about how frequently and publicly celebrities get married and divorced.

I can’t disagree with anything you said Kaiser, except to add that the taboo about divorce has decreased to nonexistant over the past century, another contributing factor.

I believe in love, but not the romantical thing that lasts forever and ever beyond the grave and turns the world upsidedown etc. I AM a romantic person, but I have a good deal of realism somewhere deep down as well. In my view, real love is the thing that binds people together strongly enough to want to spend their lives with each other, and as time progresses settles in a kind of homey “like and accept” feeling.

A black girl in my year has a baby now a couple of years old, and she takes care of her herself, while going to college. She’s handling it brilliantly though.

I believe in true love, but not love-at-first-sight.

“If you start at the top, the only way is downhill.”

Well, I know true love exists. Now, finding it… that’s the difficult part. The search can be long, and you may end up getting hurt several times before you finally get it right.

As for me, I don’t think I’ll ever find true love. Sure, I’m fun to stay with and I am a nice guy but, most girls only wants to be my friend. Sure I am a good listener, people like telling me their problems. I just think that it is all that I will be, a good friend.