Scientists create new form of matter

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&ncid=753&e=3&u=/nm/20040128/sc_nm/science_matter_dc

mmmm… Tropical Matter…

… Wait, so it actually creates energy? o_O;;;

That’s pretty cool…anytime there’s a breakthrough in quantum mechanics, you know it’s gonna be something that’ll eventually change everything.

I wonder whether my Physics teacher has heard about this. He probably has, but it at least gives me a new topic to distract him with during lessons.

Originally posted by Wertigon
… Wait, so it actually creates energy? o_O;;;

<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> No, it transports energy at no loss. Although it’s probably a very small loss, instead of nothing at all.

Excuse me, but this thing exists in colder temperatures than a lot of superconductors do. And people can’t freeze wires to zero kelvin just to save a little energy. Research should be done the other way, that is, creating such zero-resistance conductors that may exist at room temperature or hotter.

Another thing is that they didn’t create a new kind of matter, they just discovered a new state of matter. I think they deserve a prize for discovering it, though.

I don’t think any kind of energy can be transferred with no loss… one thing my physics teacher pounded into our heads was the theory of entropy. If I remember it at all correctly, which I probably don’t, no loss through energy transfer defies that theory. Since it’s only a theory I suppose it’s possible. I should ask him about this and see what he thinks.

It’s, like you saide, a theorie. Not a law. It’s can be disproven.

And even then, laws are made to be broken.

How could energy move therough these wires if all motion stops at absolute zero? [0k]

Originally posted by Lunaris
[b]It’s, like you saide, a theorie. Not a law. It’s can be disproven.

And even then, laws are made to be broken. [/b]

I agree with the first part, but it’s still unlikely…
as for the second part… that’s a somewhat cliched statement to
use when referring to something as profound as scientific
discoveries. It just doesn’t quite fit :fungah:

Superconductors do follow the law of entropy. However, their steady rate of deterioration is so low that it seems otherwise.

Cool.
I’m waiting for them to unearth Nulanismu. A trace material that is the key element in all evil things.

Actually, many laws of science can be broken under extreme conditions. For example Einstein’s law concerning mass and energy is completely broken during interactions within particles of the nucleus for very short periods of time, and scientists theorise that all laws governing time (and a lot of other things as well) go out of the window when approaching the speed of light.

That is because laws don’t really exist. They are man made. And as the exploration of the Universe has shown, a lot of them break as you leave the place where they were created.

Originally posted by Nulani
That is because laws don’t really exist. They are man made. And as the exploration of the Universe has shown, a lot of them break as you leave the place where they were created.

I woulda said something like that, but I’m far too dense to make
such a profound statement :hahaha;

Or superconductors could allow for the invention of magnetically levitated trains, she added. Free of friction they could glide along at high speeds using a fraction of the energy trains now use.

these ‘Maglev’ trains have already been made.

so they’re not laws, more gidelines?

so they’re not laws, more gidelines?

Yep, movies never lie :stuck_out_tongue:

What is matter? Nevermind.
What is mind? Nevermatter.

Originally posted by tgd
I don’t think any kind of energy can be transferred with no loss… one thing my physics teacher pounded into our heads was the theory of entropy. If I remember it at all correctly, which I probably don’t, no loss through energy transfer defies that theory. Since it’s only a theory I suppose it’s possible. I should ask him about this and see what he thinks.

There isn’t any loss at all inwhen you transfer energy. You don’t lose energy, you just convert one kind of energy into another, which is usually heat or eletromagnetical waves.

What superconductors do is emitting almost no eletromagnetical radiation (these are regulated by temperature, hence the closeness to absolute zero) and interacting so little with nearby molecules that there is almost no heat being transfered too. Overall, a superconductor wire nowadays may have as well as zero electrical resistance throughout its length but it will have a little on the tips.