Question for you guys

I originally asked this in the “What’s your background?” thread, but I don’t want to ruin someone elses thread. It seemed like a lot of people here declare themselves to be aetheist. So I asked:
Why do you oppose the possibility of the existence of God/a god/gods.

For anyone who might ask, the reasons I believe in God are that there are circumstances that science does not explain sufficiently for me (e.g. the origin of life: it is scientifically known that all life comes from pre-existing life, so where did the first life come from. note: This has nothing to do with evolution). Also, I need to believe that there is some sort of purpose for life and something of us continues after death.
This is me personally, and you all are welcomed to think what you like, I’m just curious as to why.

Its none of your buisness what I beleive in!

Fair enough, but that’s not really what I asked.

Look, just pry yourself out of other people buisness!

I DO Believe in God. I was grown with the same beliefs that my parents have, they (Well, my Mom) tough me that God really exist and stuff… Well, a couple of months ago, I met this guy, that totally change my opinion about God. He said “Who crated God?” I didn’t know the answer so, I kept wondering the same question over and over, until I remember the definition of God… “A God is someone that can create himself…” …There’s the answer for the question…

Well, that’s basically, my opinion and my beliefs…

I don’t mind sharing my thoughs with another person…

I’m a very scientific and logically minded person, I’m not one to follow blind faith.

And lo, on the first day the forum members created the religious thread and it was good.

On the second day the forum members exchanged religions, and shared their beliefs and it was interesting.

On the third day the athiests began mocking the religious posters, and the religious posters began trying to convert the heathens and it was less good.

On the fourth day the posters began to quote bible verses they did not understand in order to reinforce their position and was bad.

On the fifth day the posters stopped listening to one another and merely concentrated on making their own posts as long and non-sensical as possible without respecting anyone elses beliefs but demnanding that their own be acknowledged as truth and it was terrible.

On the sixth day the forums were consumed in all encompassing holy flames and it was awful.

And on the seventh day the mods locked the thread, and it was good.

Personally, I think terrible is worse than awful…

CH I want you to have my children. O_O

I don’t believe in “God” because “God” , Allah, etc… are all cultural concepts of a control system created by old men in order to gain power over the masses. Religion, in many parts of the world today and throughout time has often been analogous with politics because of the clout religious individuals carried over the uneducated. Like you say “I believe because science doesn’t answer everything” , people everywhere and throughout time have believed, often because they just didn’t know better and because it was good and safe to conform unto a standard and be accepted within a group.

I do not deny the possibility of A god, I just don’t acknowledge one either because being of a scientific mind, I don’t have clear and unbiased support telling me otherwise.

Originally posted by zeppelin
Personally, I think terrible is worse than awful…

So do I, but the spot that had terrible originally read “less good” and I realized that was terrible and changed it to terrible, after a good half second of fierce internal debate on whether or not I should switch awful and terrible I hit submit reply.

Originally posted by Sinistral
I don’t believe in “God” because “God” , Allah, etc… are all cultural concepts of a control system created by old men in order to gain power over the masses. Religion, in many parts of the world today and throughout time has often been analogous with politics because of the clout religious individuals carried over the uneducated. Like you say “I believe because science doesn’t answer everything” , people everywhere and throughout time have believed, often because they just didn’t know better and because it was good and safe to conform unto a standard and be accepted within a group.
I know not of Judaism, but incidentally, the founders of Christianity, Islam, and I believe Buddhism were all of the underclasses (although Mohammad was a merchant) and the religions made widespread mass acceptance before the “old men in control” converted, whether honestly or not. For example, Christians were persecuted like any other religious minority for the longest time, by like, crucifixtion and the like. Actually, one of the most interesting historical shifts I think is the transition of suffering and humility as becoming noble traits rather than stupid ones; this transition was conducted by the “masses” and not the elites. Nietzsche wrote about this, but I think he hated the concept though. Do people in power exploit religion? Sure. But those people don’t truly appreciate the concept, and most of them end up getting their just desserts in the end anyway.

Originally posted by Urkani
I’m a very scientific and logically minded person, I’m not one to follow blind faith.

Ditto.

Originally posted by Merlin
I know not of Judaism, but incidentally, the founders of Christianity, Islam, and I believe Buddhism were all of the underclasses (although Mohammad was a merchant) and the religions made widespread mass acceptance before the “old men in control” converted, whether honestly or not. For example, Christians were persecuted like any other religious minority for the longest time, by like, crucifixtion and the like. Actually, one of the most interesting historical shifts I think is the transition of suffering and humility as becoming noble traits rather than stupid ones; this transition was conducted by the “masses” and not the elites. Nietzsche wrote about this, but I think he hated the concept though. Do people in power exploit religion? Sure. But those people don’t truly appreciate the concept, and most of them end up getting their just desserts in the end anyway.

Christian principles were laid down to appeal to the masses and create change and exert political influence against the ruling establishment and later became a corrupt organization in itself, determined upon sustaining its own authority. I don’t know about the origin of Islam, but it is no better than medieval christian practice in the ruthlessness of its application in a lot of the world. And Christianity didn’t really start changing being revolutionary until the elite themselves got involved. I don’t think people who abuse their authority get their just desserts, I think those are the exception. It takes many generations before a local populace gets pissed and starts killing off the last generation of oppressors. Note that I didn’t say the old men in control tried to maintain power, but I said they wanted to gain power over the masses.

This is a very dangerous type of thread. I’ve learned that Atheists are the one group of people you REALLY don’t want to piss off. They won’t run into a building with a bomb strapped to their chest, but they just might make you wish they did.

Science, religion, nay, EVERYTHING is about power and control. People use science to find new ways to control those under them, whether it be through new weapons, higher intelligence, better brainwashing, or anything of that matter. Religion is very much the same way, especially cults (which is why I also stay away from cultists). If atheism was an organized religion, there would be leaders, who would have power and control over the others. And they would do the same thing as other religious leaders; they’ll become corrupt and use their power for their own ends. That’s just human nature.

It’s also human nature to try and find answers to hard questions. That’s one of the main reasons religion exists. They say that some supreme being or beings exist and dictate all matters of life, and you should just appease them or they’ll smite you down. Granted, that’s a bit hard to swallow, but there’s a lot of stuff we don’t understand, and no matter how much we try, we still won’t understand everything about the universe. It doesn’t matter if you believe God is real or not; science isn’t the all-giving answer many make it out to be.

(Note: Due to my reputation as an idiot, you may ignore this if you want.)

Why I’m an atheist? Well, to start off, I wasn’t raised an atheist; I chose to be one. Why? Well, I’m more the type of person to believe in what they can see, touch, hear, smell, and/or taste.

My main reason for being an atheist is this: If God’s omniscient and omnipotent, why did he let Lucifer fall, why did he let Lucifer tempt Eden, why did he let Eden eat the fruit, and why did he kick them out of the Garden? I mean, he knew it was going to happen and could’ve stopped it. Doesn’t sound like a loving type of god to me.

I don’t go mocking others about being religious, though. I believe in mocking religion is stupid and pointless, and you probably won’t get their friendship or keep it.

Originally posted by Cala
My main reason for being an atheist is this: If God’s omniscient and omnipotent, why did he let Lucifer fall, why did he let Lucifer tempt Eden, why did he let Eden eat the fruit, and why did he kick them out of the Garden? I mean, he knew it was going to happen and could’ve stopped it. Doesn’t sound like a loving type of god to me.

Yeah, I’ve always wondered the same thing myself. Here’s what I got:

He kicked Lucifer out because he rebelled. Since angels are technically immortal, he couldn’t kill him, so he just banished him to the one place worse than hell: earth. I mean, it was all desert, save for the garden. Poor Lucifer then became evil and sought to get back at God, so he made the serpent tempt Eve. God thought his little creations would obey him, so he was busy creating other worlds in six days and resting on the seventh. Eve eats the fruit, then whines Adam into eating it. They get fig leaves on, God stops by the garden for a nap, sees that they’ve eaten the fruit, and kicks them out in a blind rage. He then blocks the garden off because they didn’t listen to him and must suffer for all eternity. He eventually gets over it, but by then, the garden has been paved over to make a parking lot.

So, in essence, God just has some anger control issues, like all omnipotent beings.

The reason that I dislike religion of any kind is because it has caused more and bloodier wars than any other force in history.

I believe what I see before me. I feel that believing in something based on 2nd and 3rd hand accounts is foolish. I even have to prove to myself whether things I see in textbooks at school are true. Thus religions, lacking proof I can see, are not things I believe in. And don’t even think about using whatever entity that is used to pass on your religion as proof, as it is far too removed a source to convince me.

I hate Christ(ianity)
No doubt I hate god as well, and any form of religion related to him, I beleive the christian god is only made of superiority. I do not beleive in the after-life I only beleive in re-encarnation, it’s the only form of post-death experience that makes any sense to me.

As for my religion I am an Atheist, in the future I may pick up a religion, Buddhism most likley.

<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> The whole idea of a big floating man up there in the sky somewhere seems kinda silly.