our northern european friends

facepalm Well played, sir.

The media made some pretty stupid moves, including and not limited to:

  • Spreading unconfirmed information that there are two gunmen
  • Harassing people STUCK ON THE ISLAND, HIDING FROM THE GUNMAN FEARING FOR THEIR LIVES by calling their cell phones. Way to go.
  • Standard issue video game/shooting hobby demonizing.

Not sure if he can be charged with several crimes and sentenced individually for a combined total of more than twenty-one years. Don’t think so though. I’m pretty sure it’s a twenty-one years maximum, total. Though, as I said: It can be extended five years at a time once he’s served his initital twenty-one years.

He copied a bunch of the points in his manifesto from the Unibomber (Ted Kaczynski).

Ugh. I should not be reading comment sections on the newspaper articles and editorials about this. Several people are saying that this kind of thing is a logical conclusion to the multiculturalism of Europe.

Alright. End the human experiment. We have failed.

In April a spree killer entered a school in Rio and shot 31 kids (11 died). People were more shocked than they usually get when something like this happens, mostly because he didn’t shoot the teachers or any other adult - all his victims were 13 or younger.

The interesting part: the media quickly spoke of violent videogames, but that’s high unlikely and more likely something they came up in an hurry, since that piece of news was released even before the police got to the shooter’s apartment. What was even more interesting is that he claimed religious motives - he was doing it for Jesus, setting an example of what should happen to sinners. He knew he would die (he was shot down by the police) and asked for a rather complex ceremony for his burial. Along with some more written material he left, he mentioned the bible’s command, and the eradication of sinners, along his motives over a hundred times.

Here’s his final letter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_de_Janeiro_school_shooting#Perpetrator.27s_letter

I’ve always thought that videogames are not a cause of this kind of violence. All a spree killer needs is a motive. Take out videogames, politics and religion, and they are still going to kill people because they cheer for another team or any other reason.


Back to Oslo, I think it’s good that they got this one alive. Most news of mass shooting I see have the shooter ending up dead. This gunman alive may be useful in understanding how they think, and how they develop into killers. I believe the only real solution to mass killings like this is by prevention, by picking the kids who display that specific kind of antisocial behavior spree killers show as kids, and treating them while they’re young.

I also think that he got so many people because it was so unexpected and unreal for everybody. We have this here more often than people would believe, so if someone opens fire in a public place people are quicker to react.

Or send them a dictionary, bookmarked to the entry for ‘logical’.

Why is the media touting him as a conservative / fundamentalist Christian?

He had no issues with sex outside marriage, engaged in prostitution, said science should always supersede religion, and claimed he had no personal relationship with “God”. All of these things are contrary to “Fundamentalist Christianity”.

If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform. This makes us Christian.

‘Christian’ is a very loose term, but ‘fundamentalist Christian’ is a far cry from ‘non-religious Christian’, as he defines it.

Because they can’t tell the difference. Same reason they’d equate “the Muslim next door” with “Islamic extremists” or “some guy who happens not to believe in God” with “the kind of idiot psycho atheist who denies that they even ‘believe’ in science because they ‘know it’s true, dammit!’ and thinks any kind of religion is a sign of stupidity and insanity.” Or, for that matter, “someone who regularly plays videogames in which you kill fictional non-persons” with “someone who wants to kill people.”

Really, it’s just a form of labelling, and excluding people from their monkeysphere. Yeah, he’s a nutso, but the media just plain wants something to blame.

I kinda agree with Weiila about wanting to stop-humanity-I-want-to-get-off, though.

And this is why I don’t watch cable news. Between CNN’s “How much would it cost to attend Hogwarts?” to Fox’s “How DARE you attack Christianity by labeling a mass murderer as Christian! He’s Muslim and if you say otherwise you’re spreading liberal bias and promoting Socialist Nazi agendas!”, its impossible to take anything these chucklefucks say seriously.

What was he trying to accomplish?

Advertising his book, which calls for the muslims to be purged from europe.