# ogre battle
**URL:** https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987
**Category:** Video Games Forum
**Created:** [September 16, 2005, 1:38pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987 "2005-09-16T13:38:01Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@Evangelion](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Evangelion)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 11:46am UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987/41 "2005-09-22T11:46:37Z")
They do if you level up
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### Author:  [@Arac](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Arac)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 12:06pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987/42 "2005-09-22T12:06:32Z")
I try and get mages by the Slums of Zenobia, but I really overkill in that game, as SE already pointed out.
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### Author:  [@Sinistral](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Sinistral)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 2:40pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987/43 "2005-09-22T14:40:55Z")
Deneb’s before the slums and it takes some careful tactics to get the mages at Deneb so that you have the levels, experience and don’t fall below 10 ALI.
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### Author:  [@Arac](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Arac)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 4:02pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987/44 "2005-09-22T16:02:26Z")
I never have problems with the ten ali, I have problems keeping their Cha up. Oh, and I meant I had all five mages by Zenobia. Where I start getting them depends on what my starting units are, etc.
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### Author:  [@Evangelion](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Evangelion)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987/45 "2005-09-23T19:04:02Z")
I never had a problem with CHA…what does it effect? How does it increase/decrease?
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### Author:  [@Sephiroth\_Katana](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Sephiroth_Katana)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 7:23pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987/46 "2005-09-23T19:23:34Z")
CHA is used in level-up requirements, and is increased and decreased much like ALI. You can raise your CHA by destroying units whose CHA is lower than yours and whose level is higher than yours. Also, running from a battle will cause all the characters in your unit to lose one CHA point.
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### Author:  [@Evangelion](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Evangelion)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2005, 9:38am UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987/47 "2005-09-26T09:38:12Z")
oh oh oh, new question, I beat Diaspola last night and in one of the towns, someone mentioned Rauny. Where do I get her again? I think I’m too late :\
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### Author:  [@Seraphim\_Ephyon](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Seraphim_Ephyon)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2005, 10:35am UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987/48 "2005-09-26T10:35:45Z")
She’s in Valley of Kastro, so unless my memory is failing you are still on time. She was in a temple to the south if I remember correctly, but you should check the shrine just in case.
A question of my own: This conversation made me want to play OB again, so what exactly is a good tactic to make Mages? How do you get ALI down without slashing (And even increasing) CHA?
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### Author:  [@Evangelion](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Evangelion)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2005, 10:45am UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ogre-battle/14987/49 "2005-09-26T10:45:53Z")
I just always let my wizards be a couple levels above the enemies and had them finish them off…cha isn’t really a problem at all, at least in my experience…
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