New System of a Down album - Mezmerize

Anyone else heard this yet? BYOB has been played a lot, pretty awesome song. I personally like the Intro, both Hollywood songs, and especially Violent Pornography.

A lot like their old stuff, BYOB is pretty different though.

FUCKING SWEET.

Haven’t heard it, but based on this single and the old stuff they’ve made I’m not interested in hearing another band bitch about the government.

OMG GAFL

It’s all pretty good. A lot of it is similar. Worth the 80 megs three weeks ago.

SoaD sounds to me like a garage band trying too hard for a ‘Thrash Dead Kennedys’ vibe. Then again, that’s a pretty cool vibe to shoot for.
In other words, I like them, but I prefer slightly more original sounds. I don’t know how this is on the new album.

Besides, I’m always ready to hear another band ‘bitch about the government.’

my friend has the cd on mp3 player already, he sings them all the time. Its annoying cuz he says the same line over and over again.

What? Why would a band TRY to suck? That’s just mind boggling.

I’ll certainly check it out. I like System of a Down’s weirder songs. Also because of this.

Your opinions are not facts.

Also, Pierson, that’s awesome.

SoaD doesn’t sound…like…anything like Dead Kennedys, really. :stuck_out_tongue: Dead Kennedys don’t even really have a sound, I think. Not to say that they’re bad, I think DK fuckin’ rocks. But their style is more in their lyrics than their music. If you want bands that are similar to DK, you need to find bands that do the same sattirical stuff, like Screeching Weasel, Guttermouth, and, to an extent, NOFX. SoaD is really not like ANY of those bands, neither musically nor lyrically.

I was referring to the singer’s voice. He sings with the same rythm and vibratto as Biafara, even when it doesn’t fit the song. That, or it’s just me, which is entirely possible, even likely. I’m semi-tone-deaf when it comes to singers, so you’d probably know that better than me.

Is this like, the catch phrase of the century or something? I coulda sworn I’ve never mentionted anything about my opinions being fact in my life, lol.

I love forumers. They’re just so… oogly boogly crazy! Heheh.

It’s the way you state them Hades. Quite often, you state them as facts. :stuck_out_tongue:

New album? Welcome to several weeks ago!
I can’t wait for the release of ‘Hypnotize’. Read a SoaD interview recently; he said they’ve only released like 1/8 or something (dont really remember the number) of what he wrote the past years so far and there’s still plenty to come; they’re releasing the two albums with some time inbetween not to stuff too much down their fans’ throats at once. Makes sense to me.
CIGARO~~

Did you really have to say Cigaro right after the line about “stuffing too much down fan’s throats”? >>

:smiley:

No I don’t, lol. It takes quite a lot of effort to state them as facts, you have to be like, “In my opinion you suck, and that’s a FACT lol!”

I just say what’s on my mind.

People take it as fact.

They accuse me of asserting my opinion as fact (because it’s in fashion), which I’m guessing is some kind of inconsequential defense mechanism (what does it matter if my opinions aren’t facts? I’m not treating them as fact any more than you are :P).

Then, when I ask for any shred of evidence that suggests I thought my opinions were factual, they defend themselves with monstrous copouts with no grounds in logic, such as pretending to know what was implicit in my words better than I do (Ohh ho ho, but you PRESENTED them as facts!). No offense :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s really ridiculous, but I have a lot of fun with it. Everyone on these forums is so mentally and egotistically fragile. It’s gotta be jokes, man :stuck_out_tongue:

And besides, this is Arac we’re talking about. <font size=“6”>ARAC.</font> Yup :stuck_out_tongue:

Hades, when you ask why a band would try and suck, after someone states that a band seems to be trying to immitate another band, you imply as a fact that the ‘imitated’ band sucks. It is the way the English language works.

This is because you state part of your sentence as an opinion (‘I don’t see why any band would,’) then do not specifically state the other half that way, which makes it seem as though you intentionally stated it as a fact.

You may not recognize that you do it, because you’re seeing your statements throgh proverbially rose-coloured glasses. The fact that enough other people have noticed and pointed this out to you for you to think it’s a cliche line should be a hint that they might be right. However, instead of thinking about listening to other people, you assume that they’re all just wrong, and you toss insults back at them rather than logical arguments. Ironically, one of the things I’ve noticed you spouting more often than others, is that your opponents argument has no logic behind it. In fact, you said that right now. So, here’s the logic in our ‘monstrous cop-out:’

Implication is in the eye of the beholder. You may know what you intended to imply, but you could have implied something very different in other people’s minds. Since you know what you were trying to say, it’s obvious to you; the way most people have ahard time finding typos in their own work, because they know what they meant to say, and read that, instead of what’s really there. For example, if someone else wrote a statement in the form you do, I imagine it would seem to you as if they were stating a fact, rather than an opinion.

So, it is indeed possible that other people know what is implicit in your words better than you do. They don’t know what you meant to imply, but they know what was implied to them; how they took your words. If you imply something and nearly everyone around you (absolutely everyone who comments), takes it in a different way than you intended, you might want to contemplate that you may not be saying quite what you think you are. Especially if you get the same responses a lot when you try and imply that same thing.

Lol, sorry pal. They’re my words. What I recognize is what is. You’re in denial. You’re trying to convince yourself that your opinion of my words has any bearing on their meaning, which is kind of ironic, don’t you think?

So, it is indeed possible that other people know what is implicit in your words better than you do. They don’t know what you meant to imply, but they know what was implied to them; how they took your words.
Exactly my point. The problem is on your end. You’re drawing nonexistant conclusions from nonexistant verbal stigma.

If you imply something and nearly everyone around you (absolutely everyone who comments), takes it in a different way than you intended, you might want to contemplate that you may not be saying quite what you think you are. Especially if you get the same responses a lot when you try and imply that same thing.
So you’re all collectively drawing nonexistant conclusions. That doesn’t make me any less correct than Gallileo when everyone else thought the earth was flat.

Sorry Arac, but you really have no right to accuse me of assuming my opinion is fact. You’re the one huffing around about how your perspective defines the meaning of my words.

This just adds to the tower of evidence supporting my theory that what people call others, more often than not, defines themselves. (Lol, I just read your post and realized how dead-on this conclusion was. You even called me someone who calls others what he himself is. That’s reallllly ironic.)

But please, go on. Seeing you defend yourself with twisted definitions of “what the english language is” and such is really amusing. I mean, it’s high-larious!