Le sigh (angst warning)

I want some general opinions on some things that have been happening in a class of mine >< If you’re one of those people who shits their pants and cries over any type of personal thread, leave now, plz.

In my Film&Video class, I have been placed in a group with 4 other students. 3 weeks ago, we were told to make a movie out of a script that had been written by another student in our class. On the first day we received the scripts to start planning, our appointed director had been absent on that day for whatever reason.

So the other 3 people and I made heavy changes to the ideas, and starting brainstorming and whatnot. The next day, our director is present and changes everything. :smiley: Mistake number 1.

As a group, we were very disorganized. I tried to get people on track when the topic turned obscene, or stupid, because approx three weeks is hardly enough time to plan for a movie, and let’s face it, we are total amateurs. So it took us a lot longer to plan everything out because of that, and the fact that nobody would stay focused, especially, our director. I don’t mean to suck anyone’s ass, because some of the time, I was joining in on the sillyness, but I made an effort to get people on track.

Well, this caught up with us, and also having a shitty director for our group put us in the shitter. He filled the movie with so much innuendo, that we had to re-write it. Actually, he did it by himself, because the rest of us weren’t allowed to do so, and all of our contributions were taken out, by this guy. The first script he came up with had oral sex references, derogatory religious and racial comments/images, and was filled with swearing. He didn’t listen to me every time I told him this, and when I said someone might get offended at the thought of Jesus Christ in a wheelbarrow (don’t ask), he gave me this look like I had just sat in his lap and peed on him or something.

So our director was totally out of his mind, and treated his role like the real deal. He folded his head in his hands, scrubbed his face, closed his eyes, or sighed loudly whenever something bothered him or when the rest of us had the gall to suggest an idea that clashed with his. He did this a lot. When our teacher told us that we had to make permission forms for the actors in ours movies to be signed by parents, he huffed and puffed and asked the class if anyone had a cigarette because of his nerves. It was embarrassing to say the least. meanwhile, 3 out of the 4 of us working underneath him, complain, with me protesting against his leadership the most.

We have since nearly failed a group paper relating to the movie altogether, and lost major points because our revised movie script was handing in a week late. We couldn’t proceed with set design or audio planning because he alone wrote the script and we didn’t know what was in it, at the time. Thus, we are delayed once more.

He has since not apologized, but has said that he will step back and let us do more, which I stupidly believed. I alone continued to protest (and yes, “tattle”) to the teacher about his authority because he is running us into the ground. I volunteered to be a back up camera operator, but have not been given a camera. I volunteered to be the editor, but I was told no, someone else in our group was doing it, but I argued, since our editor is a slacker and doesn’t want to do it. So I was told, “Alright, but I’ll be keeping a close eye on you. I don’t want any barbie crap in this movie” which TOTALLY set me off inside. I decided then to quit the group, because our project was headed downhill with the rest of the group to proud or scared to speak out against our director. We were filming yesterday (I watched) and the average takes on scenes that were shot was…1. Yes, 1. No practicing or anything. If things were horribly done, they took…2 shots. At the most, 3. Each being about 5-7 seconds long, in poor lighting, and surrounding areas. Every time I spoke up that “oh you should speak louder and pronounce your words more carefully” or “The camera is quite shaky, you should re-do that”, I was ignored. After class, yesterday, I told my teacher I was done with these people, and she agreed to let me do my own independent project.

Which is what I did today. No one bothered me.

Earlier this evening, I was messaged by the other girl in my group who made small talk (it was quite obvious what she wanted) and then asked why I “quit” our group. I said it was because no one wanted me to do anything, and then bitched at me when I wasn’t doing anything. yesterday I was told I had to act in the movie (I HATE acting, and cameras in general) and our director said “You’re going to have to do it. You’ll make or break this movie. So what’s it going to be?” Like I had a choice. I agreed yesterday, but not today. And she said, omg they’ll have to find another actor, someone else to do the audio and…nothing else. Because those were the only tasks appointed to me. 2 lines, and sound effects. Now she is telling me that I gave up and ran, and left ALL of my jobs to her. I let everyone down. The project (rough edit) is due tomorrow and our director is trying soooo hard to make up for our losses. Since when, yesterday, when I witnessed a shitty sequence of filming? Apparently I broke the group and took the easy way out, leaving everyone else to fail but…if today was the only class I didn’t work with them and it’s due tomorrow then…that only leaves me with 1 class that I didn’t work with them in total.

Someone tell me if this seems wrong to you, or not. Or if I really did take the easy way out. I wont mind if someone argues in favour of one or the other because I’m honestly wondering and needed to tell someone. I have just been told that I showed everyone else what kind of person I am in real life, running away when people need me the most when the problem was…nobody in the group trusted me enough to do anything. I was also just told that if my absence has helped fail this group, then this girl who accused me of such, might fail this class, which would in turn take away her chances of graduating, this year :open_mouth: It’s pathetic really, all of the excuses and defence mechanisms that have just occured here, and since I’m starting to become bothered by what may happen when I show my face in class tomorrow, I’d like a stranger’s point of view.

What do you think? Too extreme? Not extreme? Right or wrong thing to do? I apologize for being so long winded, but you have to know all of the gory details to understand it. Bah.

edit: I forgot to mention, NO ONE confronted me during classtime. I was working in the library, and when they heard of my decision to work on my own, no one came looking for me. The comments just started coming at me on MSN, which is a bit cowardly in my opinion -_-;;

Ya know who that guy sounds like. Shaheem Jim. The fact that you were willing to do anything apart from acting, but they didn’t allow you to, despite the fact that they were lazy bastards, shows you were in the right, they were in the wrong, the fact that she’s blaming you over MSN shows that she doesn’t even really believe it, or at least knew no-one else would. Go in.

Well, if it really didn’t make a difference, you shouldn’t worry bout it.

Sod them.

But what i meant was, do they have a right to totally make up excuses for leaving them? I mean, am I really responsible for this girl’s graduation? Come on…

No. Not in any way. You are in no way responsible for what others do or don’t do.

You aren’t; they gave you a reason to leave. They’re wholly responsible themselves. Which is what I meant with Sod them.

haha I directed that at NB, Nulani, but your advice is great as well.

Fuck them all. In the eye. A group effort requires the contribution of the whole group, hence why it’s a group effort. If you either have to do nothing or everything fuck them and go do something else.

Nah, you are not responsible for them not graduating. Don’t worry about it and just listen to some music and grab something to eat. That should take your mind off this subject, and if all those fail, just play tetris. It always helps me :slight_smile:

I’ve done that several times. As TD said, fuck them all.

Ya’ll are so carefree and brave. Me, I’ll cry. Like if anyone blows up at me tomorrow, I’ll cry. Now I feel stupid for writing this thread ;_; I’m such a sap.

Things bother me so much that I can’t focus on playing like…Breath of fire. I want to get my mind off of things but they start polluting what I like to do, and then i sit here in a slump as usual. But I’ll get a sandwich >>

Nothing’s your fault. They’re a bunch of lazy asses who won’t get up adn do some work. I don’t put up with it myself. If I’m stuck woth a group who don’t do shit it’s immediant get me out of the lazy group.

At least you tried to get their act together… At least you tried to help but they wouldn’t get it through their tiny little brains. So, woo them, yay you.

Nah, don’t cry Eva. If they were fucking everything up, who cares what they have to say. If you feel you’re getting bitched at a lot, just tell them what you told us. Told them how much they sucked, preferably infront of the teacher. Then you’ll look like a totally awesome student, and make them look like they suck, which they do.

Exactly.

Having a lot of drugged out friends, I run into this brilliant-type logic all the time. The easiest way to get through is to simply go around it. Just don’t even bother it. Chances are, that they wouldn’t listen to you even if you explained it to them, and I’m almost positive they wouldn’t judging by your post, so don’t even try. Just let them rattle off at you, and say “Okay.” and be done with it. Not only will they be completly dumbfounded, but you won’t even have to put up with any of it anymore. And if they try to, just grab a friend of yours (yours, not both of yours), and explain it to both people. That tends to help.

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None of them should have the right to blame you for their mistakes. The way I see it, an excuse is an excuse. They gave you enough reasons to quit, they wouldn’t listen, simple as that. It’s simply their fault, end of story.

Oh boy!! I’d Personaly prefere to see my lunch/breakfast again than take part in a mess like that. I personaly before editing Asking what is the mood the Final Product is sospose to be.

Someone might get offended at the thought of Jesus Christ in a wheelbarrow
Correction: IS. Me!! and I can get about a Dozen before 10am Eva time.

He Sounds Like a Proper “A-hole”. I knew some Actors that would either Strip out most of the Swaring and Sexual References. He had bad script like what your “A-Hole”, I heard him say,

I’m either OUT or changing my part a bit.
or words To that effect. He didn’t do too many changes he told me.

Personly I think these Verses are for you.

Jesus said:

Big Nutter

I might Siggy This.

That really sucks. Tell 'em to fuck off and go to your teacher about it. Explain the situation. Get a copy of the original script if you can.

My history group project has it right. The group recieves a total score (out of 20 in our case), we multiply it by number of people in our group (4) and divide the points as we see fit. So, if we get a 18/20, we have 72 points to spread between the 4 of us. If one of us slacked off (>.>), the group would probably say “fuck him” and give him a 12/20 while everyone else got a 20/20.

You should suggest that to your professor. It motivates people.