# Ladybug, Ladybug

**URL:** <https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307>\
**Category:** RPGC Main Forum\
**Created:** [January 22, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307 "2004-01-22T19:16:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Charlemagne](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/charlemagne/32/17_2.png) [@Charlemagne](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Charlemagne)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/1 "2004-01-22T19:16:22Z")

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Fly away home, your house is on fire and your children will BURN!!!

What the hell? How do you tell that to little kids in their cradle? I love it!

Discuss.

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**Author:** ![Kei](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ac8455/32.png) [@Kei](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Kei)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 7:26pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/2 "2004-01-22T19:26:40Z")

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People like to blame the media, but it’s poems and stories like these that make our children so damn fucked up. Hurrah! 😃

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**Author:** ![BlueMageOne](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@BlueMageOne](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/BlueMageOne)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/3 "2004-01-22T19:33:16Z")

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Read a grimm’s farie tale, and tell me why that generation wasnt’ fucked up

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**Author:** ![X\_countryguy](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/57b2e6/32.png) [@X\_countryguy](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/X_countryguy)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 7:44pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/4 "2004-01-22T19:44:51Z")

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You know I did one of these in the first grade, my mom thought it was funny as hell and she framed it. I’m quoting here.

“Ladybug, Ladybug, where did you fly? The water.  
What did you do? Drown.”

I was such a pleasant kid.

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**Author:** ![demigod](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@demigod](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/demigod)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 8:35pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/5 "2004-01-22T20:35:34Z")

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Isn’t it great explaing how “Ring around the rosies” is actually about the Black Death?

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**Author:** ![Charlemagne](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/charlemagne/32/17_2.png) [@Charlemagne](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Charlemagne)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 8:41pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/6 "2004-01-22T20:41:15Z")

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> Originally posted by demigod   
> Isn’t it great explaing how “Ring around the rosies” is actually about the Black Death?   
> I’m afraid thats just a faerie tale _waits for a laugh, but waits in vain_ “Ring Around the Rosie” is simply a nursery rhyme of indefinite origin and no specific meaning, and someone, long after the fact, concocted an inventive “explanation” for its creation.

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**Author:** ![Kairi](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/kairi/32/77_2.png) [@Kairi](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Kairi)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 10:54pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/7 "2004-01-22T22:54:00Z")

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Didn’t Rock a Bye Baby have some meaning/purpose to it.

I guess its always pleasant to read Brothers Grimm faerie tales to my little brother.

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**Author:** ![DomaDragoon](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@DomaDragoon](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/DomaDragoon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 11:00pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/8 "2004-01-22T23:00:10Z")

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> Originally posted by Kairi   
> Didn’t Rock a Bye Baby have some meaning/purpose to it.

Yes. It reminds you not to stick babies in trees.

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**Author:** ![Charlemagne](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/charlemagne/32/17_2.png) [@Charlemagne](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Charlemagne)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 11:04pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/9 "2004-01-22T23:04:16Z")

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I’m not talking about Faerie tales! I’m talking about Nursery Rhymes!

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**Author:** ![Dragon\_Tear](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/dragon_tear/32/50_2.png) [@Dragon\_Tear](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Dragon_Tear)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/10 "2004-01-23T01:20:04Z")

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And we’re talking about fairy tales.  
Little red riding hood: Rabid wolf eats grandmother of small kid because she was stupid enough to tell him where she lives but gets shot by a hunter in the end.  
Snowhite: evil grandmother wants to kill girl just because she’s prettier than her. Several ways of killing a person are shown here. At the end, she has to dance in hot iron shoes until she dies.  
Cinderella: Girl who’s mother died gets treated like shit (but gets to marry prince at the end). Evil stepmother dies in jealousy.  
These patterns go on and on. Wolf tricks and eats seven innocent goats (!). Evil fairy curses 16 year old girl to die but fucks up and she sleeps 100 years instead. Et cetera, et cetera.  
I don’t think that it has affected the kids back in those days in a bad way though, because one had a totally different relation to stuff like death and vengeance. It wouldn’t surprise me if it would today, though.

In todays versions of the fairy tales, Cinderella would go to Amnesty international and show her evil stepmother the Human Rights declaration, the dumb goats would be rescued by Greenpeace and Snowhite would declare the queen’s actions as stalking, go to the CIA, become part of the Victim protection program, receive a new identity and live somewhere in Finland called Snooorklsejae Viirjkjaasen.

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**Author:** ![Pierson](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Pierson](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Pierson)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/11 "2004-01-23T02:21:29Z")

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> Originally posted by Dragon Tear   
> Little red riding hood: Rabid wolf eats grandmother of small kid because she was stupid enough to tell him where she lives but gets shot by a hunter in the end.  
> Snowhite: evil grandmother wants to kill girl just because she’s prettier than her. Several ways of killing a person are shown here. At the end, she has to dance in hot iron shoes until she dies.  
> Cinderella: Girl who’s mother died gets treated like shit (but gets to marry prince at the end). Evil stepmother dies in jealousy.  
> These patterns go on and on. Wolf tricks and eats seven innocent goats (!). Evil fairy curses 16 year old girl to die but fucks up and she sleeps 100 years instead. Et cetera, et cetera.  
> I don’t think that it has affected the kids back in those days in a bad way though, because one had a totally different relation to stuff like death and vengeance. It wouldn’t surprise me if it would today, though.

Ahh, it was a golden age. 😛

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**Author:** ![Alyx](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/alyx/32/67_2.png) [@Alyx](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Alyx)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 6:54am UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/12 "2004-01-23T06:54:33Z")

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What about ring-a-round-the rosy?

Thats like a morbid song when you think about what it truely means…

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**Author:** ![Yar\_Kramer](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/yar_kramer/32/59_2.png) [@Yar\_Kramer](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Yar_Kramer)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 7:23am UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/13 "2004-01-23T07:23:04Z")

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> Originally posted by Alyx   
> [b]What about ring-a-round-the rosy?
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> Thats like a morbid song when you think about what it truely means… [/b]

![](http://firstreality.keenspace.com/images/YarKramer32-stand.gif) Uh, we already covered that, Al:

> Originally posted by Charlemagne   
> I’m afraid thats just a faerie tale _waits for a laugh, but waits in vain_ “Ring Around the Rosie” is simply a nursery rhyme of indefinite origin and no specific meaning, and someone, long after the fact, concocted an inventive “explanation” for its creation.

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**Author:** ![GG\_Crono](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/gg_crono/32/56_2.png) [@GG\_Crono](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/GG_Crono)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 10:05am UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/14 "2004-01-23T10:05:32Z")

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think we all know who’s to blame for the bastardisation of this stuff, though I’d rather not point fingers…

_coughcoughdisneycoughcough_

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**Author:** ![Nebagram](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/nebagram/32/52_2.png) [@Nebagram](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Nebagram)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 12:34pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/15 "2004-01-23T12:34:58Z")

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> Originally posted by GG Crono 4   
> [b]think we all know who’s to blame for the bastardisation of this stuff, though I’d rather not point fingers…
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> _coughcoughdisneycoughcough_ [/b]

Yes… bloody corporation. :too bad; Life was much more fun when the gruesome murders/disfigurement were the emphasis of the tales. :mwahaha:

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**Author:** ![ChrisAsmadi](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@ChrisAsmadi](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/ChrisAsmadi)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 12:38pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/16 "2004-01-23T12:38:48Z")

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> Originally posted by Nebagram   
> Yes… bloody corporation. :too bad; Life was much more fun when the gruesome murders/disfigurement were the emphasis of the tales. :mwahaha:

That it most certainly once, although atleast they hide the gruesomeness well…

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**Author:** ![X\_countryguy](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/57b2e6/32.png) [@X\_countryguy](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/X_countryguy)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 7:45pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/17 "2004-01-23T19:45:03Z")

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Well hell, if you guys are going to talk about fairy tales being gruesome, you should read some Russian fairy tales. I don’t see how they could be directed at kids at all.

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**Author:** ![Yar\_Kramer](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/yar_kramer/32/59_2.png) [@Yar\_Kramer](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Yar_Kramer)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/18 "2004-01-23T20:10:22Z")

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![](http://firstreality.keenspace.com/images/YarKramer32-stand.gif) “Animal Farm” is a fairy tale, and IT sure isn’t directed at kids! 😃

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**Author:** ![kaseli](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/kaseli/32/76_2.png) [@kaseli](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/kaseli)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 8:31pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/19 "2004-01-23T20:31:24Z")

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> Originally posted by Yar Kramer   
> ![](http://firstreality.keenspace.com/images/YarKramer32-stand.gif) “Animal Farm” is a fairy tale, and IT sure isn’t directed at kids! 😃

No its not. Its a comparitive novel about the US and USSR.

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**Author:** ![Cless\_Alvein](https://discourse-cdn.rpgclassics.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgclassics.com/cless_alvein/32/1_2.png) [@Cless\_Alvein](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/u/Cless_Alvein)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2004, 8:34pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgclassics.com/t/ladybug-ladybug/6307/20 "2004-01-23T20:34:36Z")

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Superficially it’s a fairly tale 😛 Hell, it even says “A Fairy Story By George Orwell” in the beginning 😛