Its not perfect, but its progress

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4060525,00.html

Which part? The anti-bullying laws and stuff, or the fact that the bullied kid fought back?

The laws, but I was talking more about how the bullied kid didn’t get slammed as hard as he could’ve been for what he did. I think the self-defense defense should’ve come through, but as I said, its not perfect, but its an improvement.

An improvement? The judge refused to hear his defense. That’s fucked up no matter what situation.

it shouldn’t have had to go to court.

… What kind of a parent would sue a kid for injuring his own kid who was trying to injure the other kid? I’d just laugh out loud and tell him that it was the thing he deserved for trying to oppress other people.

It’s probation. He stabbed a kid in the face. The term “sentenced” may make it sound bad, but he’s getting off extremely easy.

So if you were the judge, Hades, you would have given him jail time?

Don’t even TALK about something like that.

I know what it’s like to be bullied… sighs I would ahve let the kid off, but ordered counseling.

So if you were the president of the world, Kero, you’d make Hades a judge? :stuck_out_tongue:

But anyway, I think he got off pretty easily too. Stabbing someone in the face and permanently scarring them is pretty serious.

He got it hard. A guy that hit me and gave me a dent in my forehead didn’t even get it that bad. Most doctors said I had to get plastic surgery soon if I wanted to avoid having the dent the rest of my life (it was about a quarter in diameter above my right eye, so it was quite visible). The surgery to fix the dent wasn’t appealing either since it would have given me a massive scar on my head and face, I was fucked either way and the kid still got it pretty easy. They were going to change my schedule so I didn’t have classes with him (it pissed off my parents and they got the school to change his schedule instead of mine). Hell, nothing really happened to him and he was provoked by name calling (all of us in a gorup called him “Lefty”). That is why this kid got it hard. Not only was this kid provoked by in various ways, many physical, he tried to stop it for years in other means. The one he did it too wasn’t very innocent. I feel sorry for this kid. He needs counseling, but he still got it pretty hard.

Wow Infonick, your life sure must have been tough.

HA HA. I’m just saying that this kid tried to solve it other ways before the whole incident and had some pretty good reasons for doing what he did and got screwed, especially when a guy I know barely got anything (if anything) for doing permanent scarring damage and being the instigator, not just defending himself and after a much shorter time. I just think that the kid shouldn’t have been punished so hard when comparing it with something else I’ve seen…and experienced.

Oh come on:
-332 bucks
-Some community service
-Some counselling plus a mentor program

And yes, the kid that hit you got off easy too. But that doesn’t hide the fact that this kid received negligible punishment for stabbing someone in the face.

They should be thankful the kid didn’t do something worse.

They should.

How about this? High school, middle school, and even elementary school to an extent is torture for some kids, cliques are the apotheosis of elitism, and everyone in high school (at least in mine) was under a God damn microscope. It certainly was shitty for me, and thank God I ended up better than most of the kids there. I hated my high school, and I really hope more kids actually stand up for themselves and not take shit from bullies. I’m not condoning the method of defense the bullied kid used, but unfortunately that’s a length at which some kids have to go to just so they won’t get the shit beaten out of them. Unfortunately the anti-violence stance in schools is a double standard, so if bullies can’t attack anyone, and if they do, it looks like the bullied who defend themselves are also in shit…what a country.

flashes back to April 20th, 1999

EXACTLY.

Please man…don’t remind me of that. I can stand a lot of things, but that is something I can’t bear to watch anymore…