Ibogaine...

Is the only mind altering substance I want to experience. Has anyone tried it?

no and it sounds dumb as fuck

Smoking cobra venom is so much cooler.

I hear it’s allowed to use mind-altering substances during elections. It makes a lot of sense.

No, but I played it in Scrabble once and always wondered what it meant. Cheers! :slight_smile:

Doesn’t that help regrow hair? :hahaha;

My mom used it to quit smoking at some kind of clinic/controlled environment in Canada.

I said something like, “This is bull, there’s no way your ever going to quit smoking, you smoked when I was seven and my doctor told you cigarette smoke was what was causing my excema, you just spent $800 on hypnotherapy, just die of lung cancer already you leather-skinned lizard.”

It’s used to treat heroin addicts. Somehow, it prevents withdrawal.

Psh. All the cool kids do crowbars.

I don’t think using the same drugs will cause you and your mom to bond better after you told her you hoped she died. If you choose to do MDMA instead, you will probably be less of a dick. Hope this helps.

Nope, that’s just how we talk. She can’t speak at anything lower than a “speaking to someone across the room” voice, and we routinely trade insults before laughing at the absurdity of it.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibogaine
Ibogaine is a naturally occurring psychoactive compound found in a number of plants, principally in a member of the dogbane family known as iboga (Tabernanthe iboga). Ibogaine-containing preparations are used in medicinal and ritual purposes within African spiritual traditions of the Bwiti, who claim to have learned it from the Pygmy. In recent times, it has been identified as having anti-addictive properties. Ibogaine is an indole alkaloidvoacangine, another plant alkaloid. A full organic synthesis of ibogaine has been achieved but is too expensive and challenging to produce any commercially significant yield. that is obtained either by extraction from the iboga plant or by semi-synthesis from the precursor compound
In the early 1960s, ibogaine was accidentally discovered to cause sudden and complete interruption of heroin addiction without withdrawal in a matter of hours.[citation needed] Since that time, it has been the subject of scientific investigation into its abilities to interrupt addictions to heroin, alcohol, and cocaine. Anecdotal reports also suggest that ibogaine may have potential to drive introspection that helps elucidate the psychological issues and behavior patterns that drive addictions or other problems. However, ibogaine therapy for drug addiction is the subject of some controversy. Due to its hallucinogenic properties, it has been placed in the strictest drug prohibition schedules in the United States and a handful of other countries. Canada and Mexico both allow ibogaine treatment clinics to operate and openly contribute to further understanding of the addictive process.
While ibogaine’s prohibition has slowed scientific research into its anti-addictive properties, the use of ibogaine for drug treatment has grown in the form of a large worldwide medical subculture.[1] Ibogaine is now used by treatment clinics in 12 countries on six continents to treat addictions to heroin, alcohol, powder cocaine, crack cocaine, and methamphetamine, as well as to facilitate psychological introspection and spiritual exploration.

British Journal Of Pharmocology

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1909352

The best information I can find is fragmentary and incomplete. I don’t trust wikipedia, and all the reputable (non-hippie/non-neopagan/non-shamanist) sources say is that it shows promise for treating addiction, but it’s risky and unproven.

Anyways, thanks for the help Arac! :hahaha;

Erowid. It is a good site for those that want to research recreational drug use. It has “trip reports”, dosage information, effects/side effects, various articles written about it, as well as pictures.

Ibogaine section.

Thanks. I’m looking at the staff page right now, for the lulz.

http://www.erowid.org/general/about/about_crew.shtml
Bläk is Erowid Center’s Mistress of Shipping. She is a para-educator (third and fourth grades), an avid gardener, and a collector of fine cats.

Mistress of Shipping. Para-educator. Fine cats.

Still, this is a good find. Thanks again.

WebMD
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/alcohol-abuse/news/20050120/hallucinogenic-drug-for-alcoholism-treatment

It should be noted that LSD and mescaline were tested in the 1950’s for effectiveness in curbing alcohol addiction. From what I remember, the results were actually quite positive. I don’t have a link to an article though.

It’s the “intense introspection” that interests me, not the hallucinations. Introspection is a kind of force modifier for experience and knowledge. By thinking about what you know and what you have lived, you can acquire greater knowledge.

This is basically my goal in life. To acquire wisdom, or intelligence, by any means possible.

try reading encyclopedias

You sure as hell don’t have to try psychoactive drugs to acquire wisdom or intelligence. In fact I don’t think you can even acquire intelligence. Hallucinogens do give you an experience unlike anything else, but I found it was nothing in comparison to pure sober experiences, pure intense instances experienced under little to no intoxication. Anything experienced under hallucinogens or any intoxicant is purely the result of the mind being overdriven to the point of fantasy.

Yes, hallucinogens can provide intense introspection, but emphasis is on intense. The average person does not need to experience what a schizophrenic experiences in order to live and gain wisdom. This is coming from someone who has tried a few drugs.

Intelligence doesn’t equal wisdom and vice versa.

Wait is that shit real?

I’m on suboxone but that sounds nice to avoid withdrawals

edit: lol and fuck erowid.

I’d rather spend my time building up my Charisma anyways since it’s so much more fun to seduce my way through encounters. :booster:

The beginning of a successful build are 10 points to Agility. You can outrun the enemy, you can outgun the enemy, you can outslap the enemy.