But this guy disagrees. Clicka. Scroll down a little.
You’ll get to see this:
Originally written by a great son of a biatch
[b]Did you know that over 15% of your visitors try to block the advertising you have on your website? We offer protection against this theft.
» Online service
Add a small (120x60px) button to your website and get full statistics over your users attempts to block your banners and pop ups and also the possility to block these visitors from entering.[/b]
edit: paradoxally, the banner on the top of the page sometimes advertises some popup killers.
<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> Well, in a way, it is theft, since you are robbing them of their advertising profits. Too bad for them, tough. You keep your filthy popups the hell away from me. pets Slimbrowser
Websites provide a service.
Not just any service, but a free service until you decide to pay for what they provide.
Services cost money.
Now, see, unless you’re either ultra-cool (like RPGC) or ultra-rich (like most advertising-free websites), you have to make money in order to pay for the free service everyone else gets. Or you’ll go bankrupt providing the free service (which I’ve seen happen before). If you run Amazon.com that’s not so hard, since your site is a commercially-based one the maintenance money just comes from your sales. But, if you aren’t hawking enough produce, you have to pay for the site another way. Now, a select few of us (like the cool cats at RPGC), don’t mind acquiring jobs and using a porion of their earnings to provide a free place where complete strangers can hack our server and spam our message boards at $100+ a month. And once in a while we get a complimentary message and that’s all find and good. But for the rest of the web sites, who don’t want to have to find extra work in addition to the work required in maintaining a website, choose to pay for their service via advertising so that their bills are covered and they can go search Kazaa for Ragnarok Online pr0n or something. And you, the user who isn’t paying any money but rather is benefiting from the free service should be obligated to suffer through the pop-ups and banners if it helps keep the free service available to you.
For me, it’s just like open TV. When I wanna watch something from open TV I get my VCR to work. After it’s all been recorded I may simply use fast forward and skip all irrelevant trash. I think popup killers are the FF of internet.
My personal opinion is that internet the way it is today is all wrong. There are other ways for a site to make money (or at least for it to be costless).
Just think and you get many ideas on how to do it.
I had this one: you could have some sort of “bank account”, just that it’s not in a bank but rather in your ISP. You buy credits from your ISP to deposit in this account. Whenever you go into a site, 1 cent goes from your “ISP account” to that site. You only have to pay once to browse through all the site, but you have to pay whenever you log to the site again.
If you run out of credits, just get some more deposited into it. Could be done via cell phone and in the internet itself.
Of course, everything in your ISP is “free” for you, that is, you don’t need to pay everytime you log into a site or subsite in your ISP.
I’m sure a site may survive with one cent per logging (they only get paid when people click their ads if I’m not mistaken, so this system I imagined might work).
A little tweaking here and there and it could work. It may have its disadvantages, making the internet a real pay-per-view-net, but would get people rid of stupid advertising. Other benefit from it might be that those who use the internet for little things will pay less than the hardcore user.
Originally posted by Ren
[b]Just think and you get many ideas on how to do it.
I had this one: you could have some sort of “bank account”, just that it’s not in a bank but rather in your ISP. You buy credits from your ISP to deposit in this account. Whenever you go into a site, 1 cent goes from your “ISP account” to that site. You only have to pay once to browse through all the site, but you have to pay whenever you log to the site again.
If you run out of credits, just get some more deposited into it. Could be done via cell phone and in the internet itself.
Of course, everything in your ISP is “free” for you, that is, you don’t need to pay everytime you log into a site or subsite in your ISP.
I’m sure a site may survive with one cent per logging (they only get paid when people click their ads if I’m not mistaken, so this system I imagined might work).
A little tweaking here and there and it could work. It may have its disadvantages, making the internet a real pay-per-view-net, but would get people rid of stupid advertising. Other benefit from it might be that those who use the internet for little things will pay less than the hardcore user. [/b]
That would involve every DNS buyer to give their credit card number to their DNS hoster.
And Ren, at that logic, the average person visits approximately 20 unique sites per day, whether popups or etc. And imagine searching Google for something. You could rap up 20 bucks easily in one hour.
<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> Also, it depends on the kind of ads. Some ads pay money per click, other ads pay money per view, even other ads just pay you money for a certain amount of time, and will take their business elsewhere if they don’t get the amount of clicks/views they want.
Sites could have a pre-entrance area in which you could see what they have in them and if you decide to go on you pay. As for the CC number, a lot of people pay their ISP with their credit cards. If you think it’s risky, you may pay in some other way before accessing the internet. If you know how much you access in a month you’ll know how much you should deposit.
The money you would pay would come from an “ISP account”, not your bank account, sou you could even have a ISP credit card which would be way safer than a bank credit card since if it’s number is stolen you don’t lose your reserves in the bank.
As I think of it, you could use this “ISP account” for safer transations in the internet too.
And finnaly, as for the cost… If it ever were done someday then the costs would go below a cent per log. And even if that weren’t enough, sites and ISP’s could have promotions and stuff.
Originally posted by Ren And finnaly, as for the cost… If it ever were done someday then the costs would go below a cent per log. And even if that weren’t enough, sites and ISP’s could have promotions and stuff.
Uh… Ren… If you were paying to look at sites, you wouldn’t realy want the ads as well. Otherwise, the paying to browse stuff would be a waste of time.
Originally posted by Chris of the Brood Uh… Ren… If you were paying to look at sites, you wouldn’t realy want the ads as well. Otherwise, the paying to browse stuff would be a waste of time.
That’s the catch of my idea, paying to browse. Of course that comes with a no-ads-paradise.
If you don’t like advertisements, stay clear from the pages with advertisements: That way you are happy, and the webmaster doesn’t have you spending his bandwidth without giving him his advertisement money in return.
It’s not the worst of ideas you’re fleshing out: Just sad it’s not very practible, and besides, people got this truely silly idea that the internet should be free.
Horrible idea, your basically trading off one possible annoyance for a total annoyance. Plus, sites such as this dont pay per visit or whatnot, they usually have a max quota of transfer, every megabyte over that gets charged. Much more efficient, and probably cheaper in the long run compared to your flawed idea.
