Yeah, you should get a job and get your own domain name 
Good post Obadiah- one thing:
I donât see how it relates to the rest of the thread, other than the fact that it is talking about Christianity. 
Anyway- whats wrong with a Christian roleplaying game? If people have fun with it, I donât think that its such a big fracking deal.
Probably cuz it encourages godmoding; no point in wielding a sword when you can simply smite the unbelievers with Super Jesus Power ©
lol X
âŠwow, that is the first thread Iâve seen with a religious post that hasnât turned into a flamewar 
(âŠgrammar? whuzzat? :moogle: )
Iâve seen the page you linked to, Zeta. WTF, a study of hell? Thatâs just a way to make weak people afraid of doing bad things.
Iâve seen the âevil rpg groupâ in that black chick thing too. It was ubber lame.
As for astrology, I donât believe in it, but I donât think itâs a sin. Besides, some ancient religions take it seriously, so christains should at least respect other cultsâ beliefs and not call such things diablĂ©rie.
edit: check this out, which I got from that link saying âshould a christain play D&D?â in the black chich page:
Today shelves in major bookstores literally groan under the weight of various of books on Wicca, for example. Some of these books, like TEEN WITCH, are written for young readers. There is even a DUMMIES GUIDE TO WICCA AND WITCHCRAFT!!
So, just because people are not christain, it means they are evil?
Originally posted by Ren
Iâve seen the page you linked to, Zeta. WTF, a study of hell? Thatâs just a way to make weak people afraid of doing bad things.
So, just because people are not christain, it means they are evil?
I dunno, I only saw the section of the âoccult.â It claimed that Pokemon, M:TG, Sailor Moon, etc., were occult. I even wrote a letter. If anyone wishes me to post it, I will.
Please do.
Okay, here.
Subject: Logos Reosurce Pages
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:59:51 -0400
From: JaouEnsatsu@netscape.net
To: logos@logosresourcepages.org
Dear Sir,
I honestly couldnât belive your site. When my friend on a message board linked me to this, I thought it was a joke. Maybe it was. I found most of the things you said to be zealous, and incredibly ridiculous.
âPsychologists have warned that role-playing can cause the participant to actually experience, emotionally, the role being played. Again, âthe child becomes the master.â Or so it seems to the player.â
While you say things such as this, you give no actual proof. Are there medical journals that you can show that prove this? It does not appear so.
"Mrs. DiNozzi refused to let her son participate in the âMagic club.â But a classmate gave him one of the magic cards, which he showed his mother. It was called âSoul exchangeâ and pictured spirits rising from graves. Like all the other cards in this ghastly game, it offered a morbid instruction: âSacrifice a white creature.â
âWhat does âsummonâ mean?â he asked his mother after school one day.
âSummon? Why do you ask?â
He told her that during recess on the playground the children would âsummonâ the forces on the cards they collect by raising sticks into the air and saying, ââSpirits enter me.â They call it âbeing possessed.ââ"
This one is one of my personal favorites. This made me laugh quite a bit. As I play Magic: The Gathering, I find this funny, mainly due to the fact that the card âSoul Exchangeâ you talk about is not a card. And I cracked up at the sticks. I visualized that in my head for a second. Then I fell off my chair.
"2. Share your observations. Spark awareness in a young child with comments such as, âThat monster looks mean!â or âThat creature reminds me of a dragon,â along with âDid you know that in the Bible, serpents and dragons always represent Satan and evil?â
Quite subtle, there. Any small child will understand that.
âIt seemed to us that these cards had some sort of power,â continued DiAnna Brannan. âAnother nine-year-boy had stolen money from his motherâs purse ($7.00) to buy more cards. When questioned, he confessed and said he had heard the devil urging him to do it. The family quickly gathered in prayer, then saw Godâs answer. Both the boy and his little sister burned their cards, warned their friends, and discovered the joy and freedom that only comes from following their Shepherd.â
âŠdo you really expect anyone who does not share your exact beliefs to believe this? I can understand how stealing money for anything is a âsinâ, but the old quote; âThe devil made me do itâ just doesnât cut it. I also donât expect any 9-year old to understand most of this, as I have a sister of the same age.
When I was at the end of the page, I saw the most odd link, âHow you can be sure you will get to Heaven.â WOW! I better follow all this, or itâs off to Hell for me! Iâm not even going to bother with this one.
âWitches Do Not Believe In or Acknowledge The Devil/Satanâ Well, neither do I. Does that make me a witch? You refuse to believe that any other religion could be right about anything. Wait, I know how you can prove it. You should know what I mean.
âGOTCHA! This is a reference to Isaiah 14 in the Bible where Lucifer is expelled from the presence of God and becomes the Devil or Satan! In fact, Isaiah 14:12 (KJV) is the only passage where Lucifer is mentioned in the entire Bible. Otherwise he is called the Devil, Satan, the Dragon, etcâ
âŠyeah, religions take ideas from one another. Where do you think the Old Testament is from? 3 guesses.
âWitches are not the wholesome, family oriented people they claim to be. Doreen Irvine, a practicing witch for many years, said, Many âwitches were lesbians and homosexuals.â And sheâs right. I have a poster, letter and application in my files for, as they called it, âFAGGOT WITCH CAMP.â The letter advertised the âsecond annual FAGGOT WITCH CAMP, August 26-30, 1991.â This event was held at Wyalusing State Park in Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin. According to the letter, âOur purpose in organizing this event is to gather with like-minded queer men and to explore our unique perspectives and experiences as faggot witches.â This queer event was even announced in the witch publication Circle Network News; Spring 1991.â
What a surprise, weâve gotten to the sexuality insults.
âThen there was the case of an Ohio witch who ended up in court. A 15 year old girl âwas selected as high priestess of the cultâ and he initiated her and several other teenage girls in a perverse way. The news article states, âThere were candles, seances, rituals. They would have to be naked and have sex with him in order to get involved with the magic.â The witch leader was charged with three counts of second degree sexual assault of a child, and two counts of sexual intercourse with a child aged 16 or older. Again, witches lie when they say they are wholesome. Sexual perversion is never wholesome!â
Iâm not sure whether this is true or not, but I gotta say, I love you making opinions based off just a couple of people. There have been many incidents in which policemen have âaccidentallyâ killed innocents. However, I donât think I see anybody condemning people as evil, except the families.
âIn 1991, I published a 30 page research report entitled, âThe Dark Side of Halloween.â In the book I quoted a former witch who said, âSadism was practiced frequentlyâŠâ Several years back I brought this up on a national talk show. When I said this, two witches who worshipped Dagon were sitting on one side of me and a vampire on the other. The audience was peppered with witches. As soon as the words were out of my mouth there was a hot protest from the witches. In fact, since the show was not live, the witches put so much pressure on the producers that they edited out my words! They did not want the public to know about their sadistic practices. While not all witches engage in such perversions, there is a large constituency that do.â
Maybe they just dislike people insulting their religion? Maybe?
âHistorically, human sacrifice has been associated with witchcraft. Anyone who is intellectually honest will admit that.â
I can admit it is usually associated, but there has been human sacrifice in the Bible. I canât quote it exactly, because I donât have a Bible in front of me, but in Genesis, God asks Abraham to kill Isaac in his name, and Abraham is willing. Does this make him a witch?
âWitches desperately want public acceptance! As you have seen, many will lie in an effort to get it. A massive nation wide disinformation campaign has been mounted to convince people that their beliefs and practices are normal and acceptable. This report has been prepared to unmask just a few of their Deceptive Schemes, Old Tricks & Dirty Lies.â
Yes, they do these campaigns because of people like you who influence people into thinking they are evil, when not all of them are.
Iâm not sure why, but I kept reading on. I found this hilarious. A zealot saying ten times in ten different ways, âChristianism is good! All else is bad!â AnywayâŠ
I saw âThe Martial Arts.â While I understand it could be condemned for being violent, I canât say I expected to find anything about it being evil, though from this site, I shouldâve. This doesnât deserve any comments.
I decided to go back to the M:TG parts.
âIn 1993, when I walked into the convention hallâŠâ
If these products are so evil, why were you there?
âThe company cannot keep up with the demand for the cards. There is such a demand for the cards that they are bought, sold, traded and even auctioned over the InterNet. Now, lest you think we are talking pennies, I have seen bids on cards from $50 to $100. I have heard report of cards bringing $200 and more. For $1500 you can buy the Unlimited Series set and for $1000 the Legends series. Need I say more?â
Um, yes. Whatâs the problem? It is basically the same things as baseball cards. Unless baseball is âoccult.â
âAfter reading two books about the game, watching the game being played, reading numerous news articles and reading scores of Internet E-Mail messages on the game, there is no doubt in my mind that Magic cards promote the occult and violence.â
Perhaps in your mind, but you do not allow other peoples opinions, or claims, or anything opposing your beliefs.
I doubt this letter will ever be noted, because it disagrees with you, which, I suppose, makes it âoccult.â
One last thing, Iâm an atheist, does that mean I have a predecided one-way ticket to hell?
And thatâs about it.
You, sir, are the Pretty Damn Good Man of the Week.
gives Zeta his award
Originally posted by Phoenix Valkyrie
[b]You, sir, are the Pretty Damn Good Man of the Week.gives Zeta his award [/b]
BOOYAKA!
Wow. Awesome letter. I wrote a similar one to Mothers against video game violence and addiction several months ago. Letters from people who point out the flaws in such an organization rarely get coverage, usually they go down on the site as " And weâve received a lot of emails from angry people, most of which are video games, thus giving us proof of why we need to exist" and that shit. Iâm religious but that whole âwitches are evil and theyâre all lesbiansâ is obviously bull, I know a lot of witches and theyâre more associated with nature, than anything, something that makes me mad when I read stuff like that. But yeah, cool, outspoken and honest letter!
yeah, I wrote that about a month ago, a month after someone on LoDU (ewjdg.proboards13.com) linked me to the M:TG article.
Gotten a reply?
no. It was funny, I mispelled the address twice. It took Mailer Daemon a week and a half to tell me, though, lol.
finishes reading the letter Dude, I love you! gives Zeta a magic deck and lots of chocolate in a basket
Unfortunately, theyâll use those lies to get all the weak-minded morons they can to follow them. Only a debased person would believe that possession thing in M:TG. And still, they keep spreading like bugs.
Freddom of religion is guaranteed by the constitution, but I think as soon as some religious leaders starting spreading lies like those, they should be put under arrest and condemned to be commie girls in a prison.
I didnât think anybody would care to read my letterâŠmuch less like it. Yup, I can be serious. When I originally posted this at LoDU, it invoked a huge debate, but soon, the admin banned topics involving religion, so it got closed. Then, after a hacker hit the forums, the forum it was in got deleted, or Iâd link that page.
This guy really pissed me off though. He has articles such as, âHow to be sure you are getting into heavenâ or âA letter to Witchesâ(a letter on how witches are evil sinners, and how he has ârelativesâ who are witches, and have bad luck.).
All things related to âwhat is hell likeâ and âhow to get to heavenâ make people become drones without thw free will that they God gave to humanity.
I once saw a site where they said: âduring 1000 thousand years, the church ruled over the world. It was a time if peace and rejoice, where sin was kept away from men by simply burning all books that contained things contrary to the bible.â
It was rather a time of war and far more chaotic than what it is today. And there was no freedom of speech.
Umm, Zeta, you do realize that MAVAV was a hoax, right?
I agree with Ob. Iâm a âChristianâ by birth only. I know I canât really say crap about anything because Iâm only supposed to be a christian. I donât go to church. I donât pray. Heck I donât even believe in God but I go to a catholic school and take religion courses anyways why because My parents are catholics.
Originally posted by MegamanX2K
Umm, Zeta, you do realize that MAVAV was a hoax, right?
Whatâs MAVAV?