And instead of celebrating Christmas in the way you believe it should be celebrated, you gripe on internet forums where people point and laugh at you for being a self-righteous dick.
NICE. Where do I learn to be just like you?
Whatever, the Christians stole the holiday from pagans anyway.
I don’t see why people complain about Christmas. Sure it brings out the selfish asshole in all of us in the most ironic way but…so? Why don’t you just ignore that and celebrate what is important to you? It sickens me to see see people casually shopping on Christmas Eve, but really, that doesn’t take away from what I see Christmas as and what I celebrate around that holiday.
As for Santa and lying to your children? Come on. It’s a magical thing. I felt betrayed when I found the reindeer nametags I made for Santa’s sleigh in with the Christmas decorations, but I’ll never regret the years I had in which Santa DID come to my house and eat the cookies left out and all of that. It was a wonderful, giddy feeling and time of year and I look back on my childhood and cherish it because of those Christmas moments. The stork also brings babies and the easter bunny exists. Sooner or later you grow up and move past those “lies” and don’t think about them anymore.
A lot of Christmas traditions aren’t just for Christmas anymore. You don’t need to be a Christian to put up a tree or put lights on your house and exchange gifts. So what if it’s commercialized for many people? It’s their loss, that the holiday season is all about rush-rush and spending money. Just keep the truth about Christmas close to your heart, whatever truth that may be, and don’t worry about anyone else. I’d rather have one day for much of the world to celebrate world peace and family and good will, than to have none.
I would have totally excerpted Sorc’s comment in a previous comment about Eva and sloppy-blowjobs. But I’m too lazy.
This conversation is kind of hillarious, as serious it seems to be.
what the fuck are you talking about
You make him horny
I think StarStorm summed it up best, truthfully. As for what I did as a Christian on Christmas, I got off my shift in a guard tower and went to bed, not church, because I was -fucking tired-. Here’s an idea for you: instead of bitching about the actions of others, try leading by example a bit and stop being such a douche.
Exactly. It doesn’t matter whether or not your parents told the truth, because if you were happy in the end, that’s all that’s important. You can’t really feel bad about the lies either, since you knew that it wasn’t going to harm you. If you’re still hung up decades later over adults trying to make you happy when you were a kid, then I can’t help you.
I celebrate Secular Humanist day on dec 25 =o What is this Christmas you speak of?
:kissy:
lol hypocritical americans/christians
I guess Christmas brings out the worst in me too. Bitching about how we don’t live in a perfect world. Oh well. Like none of you complain about anything. Some of you made some good points, others just said shut up, which I guess is also a good point.
I just want to know why its only my religion that has turned into commercial garbage. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go buy some chocolate bunnies to celebrate the reincarnation of the messiah.
Yea, get 'em early. Like now. -.-
Probably because your religion is the major religion in the country (which you live in, I note) that is the undisputed master of commercial garbage.
Fuck that. Get it after Easter.
Mmm… cheap Palmer’s candy…
I only said it because of the disgusting style of advertising we do. I’m just waiting to get an '08 model in '06.
Since the countries that have the most money are mostly christian. That and you’re probably not looking hard enough.
I thought we had those.
You should be the last person complaining about the materialism of anything? What is at the heart of materialism anyway? The desires of the physical body, yes? And I don’t just mean sex…I simply mean satisfying earthly desires rather than more divine ones. But aren’t you the one who spent years of his life (and still spends a lot of it) drinking, something, and otherwise satisfying all of your most material desires? I believe you were the one who wanted to visit Amsterdam to totally try all the wicked pot, yes? Rather than some sort of growth experience. Not that I have any problems with these lifestyle choices. I am a materialist myself. But for God sake, if you are going to live as a materialist for 364 days of the year, shut the fuck up and let us buy presents on the 365th, and don’t give us some bullshit about piety.
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I just want to know why its only my religion that has turned into commercial garbage.
Read Weber’s “Protestant Ethic”
Also i noticed that you asked us if we prayed in a condescending manner than admitted yourself you didn’t bother to go to Church. Are you really 24?
Well i would think all the buying would be really good for our economy, but then i remembered where it all goes…theres no use argueing over this it’s been this way for as long as i can remember, my dad to, and maybe even my grandpa.
No, actually. Materialism is the desire for material possessions. You’re talking about hedonism, the desire for physical pleasure. And I admit, I am a bit of a hedonist. I drink. So does everyone I know. So does the majority of the adult population. I smoke. That doesn’t make me a bad person. Its about how you treat others, not what you do on the weekends. And I didn’t spend “years of my life” satisfying all my “material desires.” I don’t know where the hell you got that. I’m not some hippy. And I am not a materialist.
But you do make a point. I shouldn’t have bothered bitching. I was all stressed out from Christmas, and a bunch of other crap, and I vented on the boards. Something that obviously annoyed a few people. It wasn’t a great idea, true, but too late now.
Sure I’m not the most religious person. I didn’t go to church. But that doesn’t mean that I can’t express my opinion on a religion to which I am a member.
“Are you really 24?”
No. I am actually a 13 year-old loser virgin posting from my mother’s basement. I just sit on the boards eating powdered dounettes and masturbating all day. I’ve never even touched a girl’s hand. I never leave my house for fear of human contact. I’ve made up everything I’ve ever written on these boards so I can get attention, and possibly acceptance. You see, all that I care about is how other internet posters view me. The opinions of random people sitting behind computer monitors is all that really matters in the long run. I want to be loved. Nay, I need to be loved. By internet posters. But especially by you! Please Zep, love me. Love me! Why won’t you love me?!!!