Uh… yet you’re using the terms CO2 and H2O like the most natural things on earth?
Heh. I thought this was old news. Ah well. Still, a nice find. Maybe they’ll find something in it?
And NightmareGun? Stop posting, please.
Neat. Maybe this’ll be the tip of that giant frozen ocean they’re theorizing about.
People make stupid posts around here all the time. Why is it that when NightmareGun does, people jump on his back? Since he bothers everybody so much, why not just add him to your ignore lists, rather than making little snippy remarks to him, because you all KNOW that’ll cause contemptuous remarks in return, which often escalate into annoying, yet completely unnecessary arguments.
Yes, leave the kid be, jesus.
2020: Drink Mars Water. It’s out of this World!
Hurrah. It’s great to know that the earth isn’t as entierly unique as some would like to think, not because that in itself is great - which it is -, but because it means we might just have somewhere to go by the time we’ve managed to fuck this place up beyond the point of no return.
Besides the color, and the logic, there was also a probe designed to catch hydrogen signals in some other different way in another article. I lost the link, though, and I’m not sure which method it used. I think spectography would also tell whether that was water.
Now, ice on Mars, in the way and amount they found it, don’t lead many to think there is life on Mars today. But it greatly strengthens the hypotehsis of life having existed in Mars in some distant past.
I heard a theory a while ago from one of my Science teachers… Chemistry, I think it was.
He said that there was the thought that Mars was possibly somewhat like Earth, although burnt out, and that life such as what we have here (possibly not human) was most probable to have lived on Mars.
Would I be right in saying that??
Well, I think he made some enemies with:
I also think he did some double/triple posting when he first got here, and his spelling’s so-so and he used a lot of abbreviations, which will draw fire from some on this board << >>
I seem to remember him getting into it with Charlemagne and maybe Epic, but I don’t recall any egregious offenses.
Everyone was bashing him for something when he made his first posts. I find sidewise references to him saying that gays were evil or something, but I can’t find any posts to that effect. All I’ve got is references that sound very much like admissions.
There was also the thread when the ToB was demolished, when he thought we were talking about the biblical account and took awhile to sift through the confusion:
Somewhere, somewhen, a lot of people took to disliking NMG, just as they did Dragonquester, Dark, and a bunch of other people whose names I don’t even remember any more.
I agree though, that he largely doesn’t deserve it. He’s improved a great deal in getting along here, and while he doesn’t add to the conversation like the mods and old hands do, he’s not dragging things down.
I personally have only ignored one or two people (the communism fanboys spring to mind). The problem is that with so many people ribbing on guys like NMG, you miss the context if you ignore him, and then you start thinking that you missed something funny, and you go and click “View Post” over and over again. It’s sort of like having your own personal, more inside-joke-ey bash.org, in some ways.
You actually went and researched his posting history?
I can latch on to things sometimes. Like passing boats.
Dude, quit stalking me. And quit bringing up the past, its gone. For some reason, whenever i post(whether its stupid or not) people start to attack me, like start to dissagree with everything i say, say im wrong, or a dumbass. I dont really care, because i will probably never see you in life, so i could care less about you. I think i already said this in a post awhile back, I wouldnt be surprised if Kraken has that too. Man, to you just like doing shit like that? Just leave me and my past alone. Sure i might say stupid things, but just ignore them. Its like some parents say, if you dont have somthing nice to say, dont say it at all. I do not want to be bann3ed again to flame baiting, so please ignore me. And if you start crap, you will get it like char and Setz did. They got 2 more months than me, because they started crap with me. So please ignor me. Dammit, I have to repeat myself so many times, its really annoying.
It just boils down to the fact that your beliefs are different than ours.
Exactly, so just deal with the fact that i have different beliefs
And you will have to deal with the fact that we have different beliefs.
I’m risking being banned here, as I have been warned twice about pestering people like this, but I’ll just give trying to explain this a shot. Please remember I AM NOT DOING THIS TO INSULT YOU, I AM MERELY TRYING TO CLEAR THE FACT THAT NOT EVERYONE HERE HATES YOU. Yes you are being insulted by some, but not every single post that contradicts you is a direct attack against your persona.
like start to dissagree with everything i say, say im wrong
You can see an example of this right on the first page of this thread. They were not disagreeing with you because they hate you, they (us) were disagreeing with you because your facts were not correct. Your facts were wrong, granted some could have been less rude about it, but you should not need to feel under attack simply because someone points out a mistake. We all make mistakes, it’s common and flipping abut it and stubbornly trying to stand your ground on something so obviously verifiable only makes you seem hardheaded.
Just leave me and my past alone
“We are but what others perceive us to be” I’d like to remember where I got that from.
What I mean here is that people’s opinions don’t just reset when you log off. The people you talk with create their own vision of your self based on what you say here, in other words, your past is the only image of “you” that they can use to identify you in the present.
In less complicated terms: Continuously hanging on to something someone said is bad, because we all say stupid shit occasionally, but expecting everyone to just “let go of the past” is not reasonable. People are still going to identify you by what you say until you show any sign of change, so don’t just expect everyone to ignore and forget if something you say insults them.
Sure i might say stupid things, but just ignore them.
It is certainly a good advice, I myself should learn to do that, but you are not giving a good example either. You reply to people’s insults just the same they do to yours. Don’t you think that is a bit hypocritical?
People are going to disagree with you. This is neither speculation nor prediction, it is history. Believing that someone will change his/her beliefs because of what someone says is unrealistic, but believing that one’s own beliefs are the universal dogmatic truth is just as unrealistic. Superficial and objective discussions between different points of view are very much possible without starting a flamewar, I could point you to a recent thread starring one of our most radical anti-creationists and a religious believer discussing the points of each view, neither one changing their mind but not escalating into a fight either. Do not feel threatened when someone points out a discrepancy on your line of thinking, it will happen no matter where you are. Quoting and paraphrasing someone (Eva I think) “You are not needed to believe them, you are not needed to accept them, just learn to respect their existence”.
I certainly hope this doesn’t get me banned, because I really have no interest in picking a fight with you. I’m just trying to show you how this looks from the other side, trying to give you an overview on the situation and why people react the way they do. I am not better than you, I am not better than them, I AM one of them as I seem to recall arguing with you once or twice, but I do not hate you nor disagree with you for fun. I am merely trying to get you to understand a bit of the basics of this incredibly complicated and volatile mess called “Social Interaction”.
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Don’t flatter yourself. This took about 20 minutes to compile, via the “All posts by this author” in your profile. I was there for many of the things I linked to when they occurred, so it was easy to pick the ones that rung a bell.
Besides, researching this gave me a chance to sift some of the stuff that happened on these boards while I was inactive for a couple of months, like when Eva first discovered Scientology and the controversies involved. I was so pissed I wasn’t here for that.
And quit bringing up the past, its gone. For some reason, whenever i post(whether its stupid or not) people start to attack me, like start to dissagree with everything i say, say im wrong, or a dumbass.
I honestly think you don’t deserve that. I’m pointing out to Hiryuu that you’ve either made some enemies or that some people don’t understand you or find you off-putting, and take the opportunity to attack you when you express an opinion, particularly when you simply state without citing evidence. Some people here don’t like statements that are too general (I should know).
I dont really care, because i will probably never see you in life, so i could care less about you. I think i already said this in a post awhile back, I wouldnt be surprised if Kraken has that too.
Has what now? If you mean apathy about what people on a message board say about my character, you’re right; it’s a useful attitude to have.
Man, to you just like doing shit like that?
Nope. I’m not much of a sadist, and I don’t have anything to prove by fisking you.
Just leave me and my past alone. Sure i might say stupid things, but just ignore them. Its like some parents say, if you dont have somthing nice to say, dont say it at all.
That might work in a perfect world, but a better strategy for survival and social interaction is to take care what views you express, so as to avoid unnecessary trouble. It’s often better, to paraphrase Einstein, “to remain silent and be thought a fool than open my mouth and remove all doubt.” Never underestimate the power of deviation from the norm to provoke attack.
I do not want to be bann3ed again to flame baiting, so please ignore me. And if you start crap, you will get it like char and Setz did. They got 2 more months than me, because they started crap with me. So please ignor me. Dammit, I have to repeat myself so many times, its really annoying.
I haven’t made any personal attacks on you in my post. I haven’t constantly made you the butt of rude and/or nonsensical jokes. I’ve cited earlier posts of yours as an explanation to Hiryuu as to why you’re treated the way you are, and why people don’t, as he and you suggested . If you’re emotionally hurt by this, I’m sorry; I don’t plan on repeating this in any case.
You guys turned a thread on the most important astronomical discovery of the decade into a flame war. I fucking hate you!
And Gun, your attitude drags that kind of afection you’re getting. While you’ve indeed improved, you still need more improvement. So next time someone tries to pick you just ignore instead of starting a fight. They way things currently go, the shit always hits the fan.
Silence. This is a thread about water on mars, and that’s what it shall stay.
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