The link you posted doesn’t work. If you can post a link showing a statistic, either through polling or the census, that shows that a majority of Native American Indians identify themselves as being of traditional Native American religion, that would do more to help your argument than calling me racist over and over again. Do you think that by posting a single link to a Native American religion site somehow proves I made a false generalization?
By the way, how does saying that most Native Americans abandoned their beliefs when they were put on reservations, and that some are now rediscovering and embracing them, make me a racist?
I compared the Chechnya situation to the Palestinian one because both involve a group of people who wish to have their own state, are being occupied by a different ethnic group, and have resorted to terrorism and militancy. You believe the Chechens don’t ‘own’ the land they live on, but they are being ruled by the Russians when they don’t want to be. The fact that the Arabs outnumber the Jews, but that the Russians outnumber the Chechens, is not relevant for the comparison I was making.
I believe that you could find similarities between what’s going on in Chenchnya with both Palestine and the Natives living in this country, but both analogies would be insufficient to explain the morality involved in the Chechnya situation.
That sounds exactly what I said. If I’m being off-topic, why exactly are you calling me a racist? Because I said most Natives don’t practice traditional Native beliefs? Because I said that the minority who do do so because they rediscovered the beliefs within the last quarter century or so?
As far as Chechnya, I explained what parts of the Palestinian-Chenya comparison I found to be relevant.
To start with, neither statements are what you posted earlier.
[b]They’re scattered over the country in reservations, they half-heartedly embrace some spiritual practices of their ancestors, but really just for novelty.
Mostly they have high suicide, alcoholism, and unemployment rates, with some of them lucking out with ancestral lands and getting rich off of casinos run by white businessmen.
Natives are all of much different mixtures of race, and the only thing they have in common is their poor socioeconomic status
When I said ‘Native Americans religion is like a novelty’, what I was trying to say is that it was more akin to the invention of ‘Kwanzaa’ or the attempted revival of the Irish Gaelic language than it is to other older, continuous religions like Christianity or Judaism.
The Native Americans abadoned the cultural practices and religions of their ancestors when they were put on reservations in the 19th century.[/b]
The proof is in the pudding man. Like I said earlier, I really don’t think you’re a racist. I just think you’re very ignorant. Saying things like “Christianity is older than the beliefs’ of American natives” proves my point rather eloquently.
Curtis, if you’re not racist…then please just quit posting your ignorant, racist remarks. I apologize for calling you a racist, but come on dude…can’t we discuss anything maturely without throwing around those types of comments?
It’s amazing what the twists of fate can lead to. When I’m bored, I sometimes type some random words in Google and go around reading whatever comes up. I was bored, and since I had just finished reading Freddy’s posts, I typed “Freddy Pickle” expecting some weird shit about pickles or the old “No results were found blah blah blah”.
So tell us Freddy, are we part of your “artistic development” or are you really trying to be a member of this community? I’m really not trying to attack you, I just want to know if I should take my time reading what you say, because I while I enjoy debating, I want to be sure the other person isn’t just trying to push buttons.
While I do enjoy clowning on people for the sake of amusement, I generally leave said clowning to communities of which I’m not a part of. I’ve been an avid RPG for almost 20 years now. If look at some of the site’s I’ve helped invade, let me assure you that I’m not a band nerd, math nerd, or conservative christian (the three boards I checked out).
Its even more ironic that you bring up FESS. You say that I’ve been banned from the site, yet I’m currently logged on. Thats a bit strange. Anyway…I like this board and I generally take everyone who wants to be taken seriously, seriously.
If you think spamming other communities is funny, then obviously we’re far behind the humour curve that the members of the Mega64ums have set! Why don’t you go back there, where they’ll appreciate your efforts more than us lesser minds ever could?
Severely derailed topic. So Freddy, if Seraphim’s insinuations are true, please leave (if not, try to be not be so vitriolic when dealing with others). Uh… To the rest of you, get off Freddy’s back. It’s the mods’ business, not yours. And, uh, I think that’s it.