As Americans, we
have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.
SAY WHAT?? how many centuries? 3 or 4? own language??? it’s more of a dialect from the original english!
if we stupid dutch people hadn’t traded in NY for Suriname… Dutch would have been the n.1 world language,
<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> Since Dutch sounds very much like what I imagine being raped in the ear sounds like, I’m glad that didn’t happen.
Well since GG hasn’t posted anything, I’ll back him up. I actually agree with most of that article. English is the official language of the U.S. It is the land of the free, and you can speak any language you want, but if you really want to get your point accross and communicate I suggest you learn English. The whole “what is English?” thing is bull IMO. English is just that, English. Just like the author said-it’s not French, it’s not Spanish, it’s…you get the the point. You can speak any dialect you want.
Originally posted by |Damage|
[b]As Americans, we
have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.SAY WHAT?? how many centuries? 3 or 4? own language??? it’s more of a dialect from the original english!
if we stupid dutch people hadn’t traded in NY for Suriname… Dutch would have been the n.1 world language, [/b]
I somehow doubt that. There were 12 other English colonies you know, then consider that the Dutch would still have to have beat out France and Spain.
Originally posted by Cybercompost
“In God We Trust” was put on our currency in 1950s to prove that we weren’t “Godless communists.” This editorial reeks of bullshit.
But we’re Godless CAPITALISTS!
But yeah, I agree. This is a bunch of bullshit.
Originally posted by demigod
I somehow doubt that. There were 12 other English colonies you know, then consider that the Dutch would still have to have beat out France and Spain.
Aww! We coulda been the United States of… Quebec! …or something. >.>
A quote, that goes something like this:
“I may not agree with what you are saying, but I’ll defend your right to say it”
It goes somthing like that, (anyone know the acutal quote and who said it?)
He’s worried about our culture changing, but I would welcome it. If you give someone a big mac and a pair of nikes right now they’ll be happy.
… Any reasonable arguments I might’ve had went bye-bye when I saw how kawaii Dragonessa’s avatar is, ^^; but I will just say that both patriotism (Freedom Fries, anyone?) and political correctness can take things a little bit too far.
Originally posted by BahamutXero
Well since GG hasn’t posted anything, I’ll back him up. I actually agree with most of that article. English is the official language of the U.S. It is the land of the free, and you can speak any language you want, but if you really want to get your point accross and communicate I suggest you learn English. The whole “what is English?” thing is bull IMO. English is just that, English. Just like the author said-it’s not French, it’s not Spanish, it’s…you get the the point. You can speak any dialect you want.
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
Xero, you’re simply demonstrating that you’ll believe blindly into something someone says because it sounds good on the surface 8P. Go read my rant before sinking yourself further.
Originally posted by Sinistral
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
Where does that originally come from? I know I heard it in Minority Report.
Originally posted by Sinistral
[b]In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.Xero, you’re simply demonstrating that you’ll believe blindly into something someone says because it sounds good on the surface 8P. Go read my rant before sinking yourself further. [/b]
Um, isn’t religion something people follow blindly? I’m not going to touch that further.
I’m making my opinion based on personal experience:
Just yesterday, I got a call from an owner of a Greek restaurant who my mom wanted a job from. My mom’s name is “Jackie/Jackolyn” and the guy said “Is ‘Yanus’ there?”
My question to you is now this: Should a immigrant be able to come in, start and restaurant, and have the power to hire people if he can’t even pronounce the names of people correctly?
I don’t want to go into any political debates or whatever. I’m just speaking from what I have learned and seen. I am a business major and have taken several classes on cultural dimensions. We talk about having to change ourselves to mold into different countries’ cultures. I feel that the above article is just asking foreigners to do the same. Yes, the U.S. is a “melting pot”, but look at the facts: English is also the most important language in the business world. Today so many faxes, e-mails, letters, and websites are in English.
Originally posted by BahamutXero
[b]Um, isn’t religion something people follow blindly? I’m not going to touch that further.Just yesterday, I got a call from an owner of a Greek restaurant who my mom wanted a job from. My mom’s name is “Jackie/Jackolyn” and the guy said “Is ‘Yanus’ there?”[/b]
<strike>But you still knew what he was talking about, now didn’t ya?</strike>Check that, I don’t know if you understood what he wanted. Regardless, if he can get his message across any way possible and if you can understand it clearly, what’s the problem?
And as for religion, people don’t follow it blindly, at least from what I see. People are always questioning it and their beliefs in it.
EDIT: And a lot of stuff is in English in America because that’s what the base of America (the original colonies) spoke, so when they wrote the Constitution, it was in English because that’s what they spoke and it was what their audience understood. Even though Chinese is the most-spoken language in the world, you don’t see it on the 'net so much because Chinese people don’t really have access to computers. English-speaking people tend to have more access to computers, and so the majority of people on-line are English-speaking people. If the Chinese were the most technologically advanced, we’d see more Chinese pages than English, now wouldn’t we?
And as for English being the national language, BAH. Too many rules and their exceptions to remember. I’d prefer Latin.
<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> Damnit people, don’t turn this into a religion thread. We all know how those end up.
I left my religious blurb to 2 sentences out of 10 for a reason. And they’re not even important.
Originally posted by Cala
[b]<strike>But you still knew what he was talking about, now didn’t ya?</strike>Check that, I don’t know if you understood what he wanted. Regardless, if he can get his message across any way possible and if you can understand it clearly, what’s the problem?And as for religion, people don’t follow it blindly, at least from what I see. People are always questioning it and their beliefs in it. [/b]
My point is that he (I assume you were talking about the restaurant owner) didn’t get his point across. I mistook him for a wrong number. Sorry, I should have mentioned that.
As for the religion thing, I was really just thinking outloud. The mentioning of me following my beliefs blindly struck me as odd at first. I now see where is coming from, but now I have backed my claims with an example.
Originally posted by BahamutXero
My question to you is now this: Should a immigrant be able to come in, start and restaurant, and have the power to hire people if he can’t even pronounce the names of people correctly?
I would think that they should. America, after all, is the land of golden opportunities. If he (the restaurant owner) decides to hire your mom and calls her Yanus by mistake, it doesn’t matter since it’s a failure on your part to understand, esp. if you know that your mom was hired by him. Hell, the guy could just hire Greek people. It doesn’t matter; immigrants should be able to establish their own places of business. I know a few doctors with accents (both with Mid-East roots) and I may have trouble understanding them sometimes, but I’ll just ask for them to repeat it if I don’t understand.
True. However, I did ask the guy at least three times to repeat himself on the phone and everytime it was “Yanus”. I guess it just strikes me weird as a business major, that has taken several courses on cultural dimensions and talking aobut how to accept other cultures, when a person doesn’t seem to take the time to accept ours.
While I don’t really hold an opinion to anything, I say let the American citizen believe what he or she wants to believe, even if it is deemed as wrong. Some people will just spew bullshit about intolerance like that and become guilty of the same crock, as I’ve seen. So, I wont get into this any deeper, as to not be accused
Following religion blindly also is a very, very bad idea.
Uh, yeah, I think it would be absolutely horrible to not allow people to start a business because they can’t pronounce a name correctly. That’s really fair there. Who cares if you can make an extremely successful and good restaurant if you can’t pronounce my name.
My god, I really can’t believe how pathetic our country is about languages. You go to almost any foreign country, and if you show that you’ve tried to learn the language past one of those stupid learn X in 2 days books, they’ll be impressed with you and help you out. Here, you’re yelled at because you can’t get something exactly right. Have you stepped back and realized what you’re even doing?
Originally posted by BlueMageOne
[b]A quote, that goes something like this:
“I may not agree with what you are saying, but I’ll defend your right to say it”It goes somthing like that, (anyone know the acutal quote and who said it?) [/b]
It was definately Voltaire. I remember it as “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it.” I’m not exactly sure on the wording though.
Originally posted by BahamutXero
Um, isn’t religion something people follow blindly? I’m not going to touch that further.
You don’t need to touch on it further, just by mentioning it you have roused a terrible beast (figuratively).
