Gundam SEED and Destiny questions.

I finally managed to see all of SEED and it was a great series, getting really interesting towards the end. I was a bit disappointed in the ending by the lack of awesomeness from Kira’s part (It was good, but I was expecting some Death Star-esque scene with him bursting through the enemy forces in a berserk frenzy) but I suppose killing Creuset was good enough, and they really managed to make me feel sorry for Flay.

I have two questions that I still can’t figure out. If they are answered during Destiny, ignore them and don’t spoil it for me.
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[li]What was Creuset hiding behind the mask? I thought he would just look like Mwu.
[/li][li]What was the SEED? Or whatever was it that shattered every time Kira (And latter Athrun and Cagalli) went berserk.
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Now Destiny… I’ve heard a lot of bad things about this, but I decided to watch it anyway. I’m at Chapter 9 and I’m already not liking it: I don’t like Athrun enough to see him as the protagonist (I think Shinn is supposed to be the main guy, but he gets like half the screen time), Cagalli’s character doesn’t work as well when she’s not fighting and while it’s an incredibly dumb detail, I can’t get used to someone else than Murrue yelling “Fire!”.

I’ll probably drag myself through it eventually, but there’s a small detail that would determine whether I continue some more or take a long break: Just how much longer until Kira gets out of that stupid beach, sits his ass on a Mobile Suit and starts to kick butt again? I don’t even need the exact chapter, just tell me if it’s going to happen anywhere within the next ten or so.

1: It’s most likely accelerated aging due to the cloning effects.
2: It’s just the Co-ordinator equivalent of the Newtype Ping.

  1. His face was burned…I don’t remember how it exactly happened. They showed his face in the special edition. If I recall correctly, he looked like Mwu just with alot of ugly scars

  2. SEED is basically coordinators unleashing their maximum potential. It usually occurs when they witness something that impacts them greatly emotionally.

Destiny had a good start, but was shit by the end. Kira gets back into action ep 13 or so. He kinda steals the show from Shinn later. I think Destiny is the second worst Gundam series, right after Wing. Wing was crap from the start, while Destiny goes downhill around ep 30 or so.

Ok thanks, I suppose I should keep on watching then.

I had another question that I forgot: What is the deal with Cagalli? Is she a Coordinator or Natural? I thought that Kira had been made in the artificial womb while Cagalli was a naturally born child, but then she went berserk in the latter chapters too.

SEED is not coordinator only, though you may get impression, since the only non-coordinator to SEED in series that I can recall is Cagalli.SEED is a acronym for Superior Evolutionary Element Destined-factor, which like some acronyms, make no semse. But, Cagalli is a natural. Wikipedia has a nice entry on SEED, which can be found here

Yeah, the acronyms got a bit stupid when Freedom and Justice showed up. What a coincidence that the new completely different set of words used to name the new system matched perfectly with a word only Kira used.

Stop wasting your time with Destiny. It only gets more retarded, ridiculous and bad as you go. Spare yourself the bandwidth, hard drive space and frustration. It will only get worse. SEED was excellent imo. Destiny was AWFUL.

I’ve heard it all already, how it sucks, how it should have never been done, how it’s to SEED what X-2 was to FFX, etc. But hey, I managed to squeeze a small bit of enjoyment out of Wing by shutting out the retarded plot and characters and simply focusing on the shiny battles, so occasionally watching this shouldn’t hurt too much.

I got up to Chapter 15 and will remain there for a while. I’m really glad to know the focus will be shifted towards Kira at some point and while I heard Shinn only turns more and more annoying, I can put up with it if he fights like he did in Chapter 12.

Except that the battles will suck more and actually contribute to the utter and complete stupidity of the show. Wait til you see the big giant destroyer things. It’ll all make sense. Destiny has NO redeeming qualities.

When you get to ep 49, don’t watch ep 50 afterwards. Instead, just go straight to Final Plus. It’s an extended version of the ending. It’s still shit, but nearly not as crappy as ep 50.

Well, there was a bit of music from Destiny I liked (including one of the in-show Lux vocals, before everything went to shit), but other than that, yeah, Sin’s got it right with the “no redeeming qualities” thing.

How much more retarded can you get than a single mobile suit burninating an entire colony with one shot (Sup, Wing Zero)? I’ll just keep on watching until the thirty-something chapters and then decide whether to continue or not. At the very least I want to know how the story goes on for a bit more.

THE NEW OPENING IS INFERIOR, BRING BACK IGNITED YOU ASSHOLES.

Hey, this is entirely unrelated but not really woth a new thread: I’ve been also watching the first chapters of Fate/Stay Night and it was pretty cool, but couldn’t find an english version for chapter 6 yet. Am I not looking in the right place or it’s not out yet?

Ep 6 and 7 are out of Fate/Stay Night. Eclipse and mahou subbed them.

Wait til you see when Berlin gets attacked.

And the openings only get worse.

Ugh, the last OP was the worst one. The song sucked as much ass as the rest of the show >_<

Yes it did. I have no fucking clue what the guys who made Destiny were smoking.

It was something very rare with unusually potent mind-warping properties.