Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced question

Sapphire_Falcon · January 13, 2004, 11:35am

What do you have to do in order to have an assassin?

DomaDragoon · January 13, 2004, 11:41am

Only Viera can be assassins. To access the assassin class, you have to have mastered 2 Elementalist A-Abilities, and 1 Sniper A-Ability.

Sapphire_Falcon · January 15, 2004, 6:45am

I know that only Viera can be summoners, but what are the requirements to attain it.

DomaDragoon · January 15, 2004, 7:25am

Two Elementalist A-Abilities, two White Mage A-Abilities.

ahkeeyuu · January 15, 2004, 8:22am

My Viera is an Assassin/Sniper
2 different ways to get instant death.

BahamutXero · January 15, 2004, 10:15am

I’m working mine towards that combination too.

Rhaka · January 15, 2004, 10:40am

Generic Viera:
Race: Viera
Class: Assasin
Secondary ability: Fencer
Reaction ability: Reflex
Support ability: Concentrate
Combo ability: Assasin

Weapon: Masamune 100
Head: Ribbon
Body: Judge Coat
Accessory 1: ???
Accessory 2: ???

Assasins get insanely good stat gains, 2 instant death skills and the Viera Ultima. This makes them HURT LIKE HELL. I just stuck Fencer skills on there because of Nighthawk, which effectively gives her a range of 4 squares with normal attacks. The weapon should speak for itself, Ribbons prevent all status ailments and the Judge Coat is argueably the best clothing in the game (high def, high mdef.) I don’t know about the accessories though, the Ninja Tabi already go to Marche, and I really don’t know what other useful things I can stick on her.

ahkeeyuu · January 15, 2004, 11:31am

Here’s my Party:

Marche
Primary Job: Ninja
2nd Job: Fighter
Equip: Masamune 100, Masamune, Angel Ring, No Armor
He can take on whole enemy clans on his own.
Montblanc
Primary Job: Mog Knight
2nd Job: Black Mage
Equip Ayuvir Red, Bronze Shield, Angel Ring
Guin(Human)
Primary Job: Paladin
2nd Job: Ninja
Equip: Excalibur 2, Excalibur, Fairy Shoes
Phil(Nu Mou)
Primary Job: Alchemist
2nd Job: White Mage
Equip: Angel Ring
Barley(Bangaa)
Primary Job: Dragoon
2nd Job: Gladiator
Equip: Odin’s Lance, La Seraphica, Peytral, Bangaa Helm, Angel Ring
Xia(Viera)
Primary: Assassin
2nd: Sniper
Equip: Hades Bow, Angel Ring
Ezel
Equip: None
Babus
Equip: None
Ritz
Primary: Summoner
2nd: Red Mage
Shara
Primary: Archer
2nd: Sniper
Isaac(Human)
Primary: Illusionist
2nd: White Mage
Christine(Viera)
Just recruited(White Mage)

My clan in a nutshell.

I still have enough room left for when I finally beat the last mission I have to do.

Rhaka · January 15, 2004, 11:54am

<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> Yeah. So I finished FFTA a few days ago, and missed a ton of stuff (mainly due to lacking a thief), so I’m preparing for my next playthrough by planning my (final) party ahead this time. Here’s what I got so far, some suggestions and stuff would help. Also, showing off my badass Marche is fun

<ol><li>Marche:
Race: Human
Class: Paladin
Secondary ability: Hunter
Reaction ability: Counter
Support ability: Doublesword
Combo ability: Paladin

Weapon 1: Requiem
Weapon 2: Excalibur2
Head: Bangaa Helmet
Body: Peytral
Accessory: Ninja Tabi

The Paladin can equip the strongest equipment in the game (Knightswords, helmets and armour), has the highest def of the humans, and gets Holy Sword. Hunter abilities work well with this, not just because of Ultima, but you get Sonic Boom as well. Sonic Boom is a really strong ranged attack, and if I got the math right, with my equipment that should tear enemies APART. Counter is my favourite of the “melee” reaction abilities, since it works on both normal attacks and a-ability attacks. Combos are always stronger if you have the one corresponding to your own class.

As for equipment, the Requiem and Peytal both add 1 move, 1 jump and 5 evade. Combined with the Ninaj Tabi (+2 move), that’s +4 move, +2 jump and +10 evade. So that gives the paladin a move of 7, which is almost as far as gunners can shoot. Combined with Sonic Boom, and I can attack pretty much every unit on the map on turn 1. Excalibur2 just is a very strong Knightsword. Requiem and Peytral can both become stronger with leveling (every time you finish their missions, they gain +1 in their main stat (atk for Requiem, def for Peytral), so those become the strongest weapon/armour in the game. The Bangaa helmet is just the strongest helmet available, since I can’t equip the Acacia Hat (grows as well) :(.</li>

<li>Lini:
Race: Moogle
Class: Gunner
Secondary ability: Mog Knight
Reaction ability: ???
Support ability: Concentrate
Combo ability: Gunner

Weapon: Calling Gun
Head: ???
Body: ???
Accessory 1: Feather Boots
Accessory 2: ???

Lini is the special mog knight that can join your clan with Ultima pre-mastered. Attach Ultima to the most powerful (59) gun in the game. Remember, guns have a range of 8 squares. That’s insane damage from across the map. When the MP for Ultima is gone, we can always go back to charmshot and stopshot. Concentrate helps improve Lini’s accuracy. I really can’t think of a good reaction ability, though. And I’m having some trouble with the equipment as well (Feather Boots is just there because I THINK it ignores height, and sniping from a high place is pretty handy.)</li>

<li>Generic Viera:
Race: Viera
Class: Assasin
Secondary ability: Fencer
Reaction ability: Reflex
Support ability: Concentrate
Combo ability: Assasin

Weapon: Masamune 100
Head: Ribbon
Body: Judge Coat
Accessory 1: ???
Accessory 2: ???

Assasins get insanely good stat gains, 2 instant death skills and the Viera Ultima. This makes them HURT LIKE HELL. I just stuck Fencer skills on there because of Nighthawk, which effectively gives her a range of 4 squares with normal attacks. The weapon should speak for itself, Ribbons prevent all status ailments and the Judge Coat is argueably the best clothing in the game (high def, high mdef.) I don’t know about the accessories though, the Ninja Tabi already go to Marche, and I really don’t know what other useful things I can stick on her.</li>

<li>Quin or Generic Nu Mou:
Race: Nu Mou
Class: Sage
Secondary ability: Black Mage
Reaction ability: Return Magic
Support ability: Turbo MP
Combo ability: Sage

Weapon: Sapere Aude
Head: Black Hat
Body: Black Robe
Accessory 1: Star Armlet
Accessory 2: Star Armlet

Quin is another special character, this time a Sage with Ultima already mastered. However, you get him fairly late in the game, and you can get the thing that teaches Ultima relatively early. I’m just raising a generic character until I get Quin, then will compare stats. I’m keeping the character as a black mage for most of his career, though, since they get (marginally, like, 0.4) better matk gains. Sagistic magic is pretty neat, due to having Ultima, Giga Flare, and Raise (a healing/revive spell.) And of course, Black Magic stays great for pure offensive power. Return Magic is fun to use, since my casters rarely get hit by anything other than spells. And Turbo MP makes spells kill shit fast

The Sapere Aude is a staff which grows in the same way that Requiem, Peytral and the Acacia Hat do, only for matk. I’m not sure about the hat, maybe I should give the Acacia Hat to him? (I think that it gains mdef.) But it’s a pretty nice Hat otherwise, 16 mdef. The Black Robe isn’t that great, but it enhances fire, ice and lightning magic by about 30%. That makes it well worth equipping. As for the accesories, well, they’re basically the things I found that give the highest matk boost If there’s anything else, feel free to suggest.</li>

<li>Generic Nu Mou:
Race: Nu Mou
Class: White Mage
Secondary ability: ???
Reaction ability: Return Magic
Support ability: Turbo MP
Combo ability: White Mage

Weapon: ???
Head: White Hat
Body: White Robe
Accessory 1: Star Armlet
Accessory 2: Star Armlet

Well, this is pretty much just my healer. I really can’t think of a subclass for her, though. Maybe Time Magic? Suggestions would rock. Otherwise, same story as black mage.

I really don’t know about the weapon. Currently, she has the Dream Watcher equipped, since I can’t think of another Staff with higher matk/mdef bonuses Again, suggestions. Hat is the same story as Black Mage. Although the Black Hat is stronger than the White Hat, I’m not sure if you can get more then one, and I still don’t know who to give the Acacia hat. White Robe halves all damage gotten from fire/ice/lightning. Again, same story as Black Mage.</li>

<li>Generic Human:
Race: Human
Class: Thief
Secondary ability: ???
Reaction ability: Counter
Support ability: Double Sword
Combo ability: Thief

Weapon 1: Orichalcum
Weapon 2: Orichalcum
Head: Thief Hat
Body: Onlyone
Accessory: Thief Gauntlets

Basically the reason for my second playthrough This guy is going to get me one copy of every item in the game… I hope. Anyway, his main trick is stealing, of course. I just can’t think of a secondary ability. Maybe Battle Skill, for Sensor (detects hidden equipment) and the weakening techniques (stealing equipment weakens the enemy, keeping with the trend…)? Or maybe just make a boring Item user out of him? Anyway, suggestions would rock. For Counter, see Marche. Counter HURTS with Double Sword, especially when you have two copies of the strongest dagger in the game equipped.

Like I just said, both daggers are really bloody strong, for when I actually have to deal damage. The Thief Hat gives some nice stuff, like extra evade and immunity against stop and disable. Onlyone is like a weaker version of the Judge Coat, and the Thief Gauntlets increase my stealing ability. Always handy.</li></ol>

ahkeeyuu · January 15, 2004, 9:45pm

I use the Fighter R-Ability Strikeback. If they attack, you block and attack. If you have 2 weapons, you pwn the enemy.

Also, use Holy Blade if you have Excalibur2. You’ll do like 850 damage on the average.

EDIT: Gladiators also learn Strikeback.

Rhaka · January 15, 2004, 9:49pm

<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> Strikeback doesn’t work on a-abilities, though. And the increased damage only works with the first hit, the hit of your second sword only does normal damage.

pink_lugia · January 16, 2004, 12:24pm

I’d also give counter to your gunner, as they can counter over range. that’ll fix those pesky archers. and for theif secondary ability, maybe another paladin.

Rhaka · January 16, 2004, 12:43pm

SEE TITLE OF POST

<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> Also, those are quite stupid suggestions The entire point of the gunner is dealing damage without being able to get damage back (and stat effects, of course). Giving him a damaging counter would be pretty dumb, since you don’t want him to get attacked in the first place. And his standard gun attack is pretty weak.

And what the hell would a thief do with a paladin ability set? There’s absolutely nothing of any use to him in there.

ahkeeyuu · January 16, 2004, 9:03pm

Holy Blade and Saint Cross.

Rhaka · January 17, 2004, 4:28am

<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> Which are both completely useless to a thief. He’s not a melee fighter, for the most part.

Mabatsekker · January 17, 2004, 4:59am

Damn you and your Munchkinism, TD

And have you even mastered a Blue Mage, hmmmm!? stare-stare

Rhaka · January 17, 2004, 5:52am

<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> Yes. In my first playthrough, Marche was a master Paladin/Blue Mage.

DomaDragoon · January 17, 2004, 10:01am

Originally posted by Tenchimaru Draconis

And what the hell would a thief do with a paladin ability set? There’s absolutely nothing of any use to him in there.

Nurse… thieves aren’t the hardiest characters, even if they are evasive. Defense could help in a pinch. And if worst comes to worst, it’s always handy to have another potential damager.

baka-neko · January 18, 2004, 3:29am

Why should a unit master a job?
Is there a reward beside a star over it’s head?

Rhaka · January 18, 2004, 3:44am

<img src=“http://www.rpgclassics.com/staff/tenchimaru/td.gif”> No, there isn’t. Just for completeness sake.

Well, Nurse might be handy, but it heals far too little hp to matter, and you rarely get status effects in this game. Defense also isn’t very great, the thief needs to evade stuff, not get hit at all. It’s really not worth sacrificing an entire command set just for two pretty mediocre abilities like these.