ATF Rids University of Georgia of Ninja Threat

  1. Not police brutality. THey had reasonable suspicion/probable cause to suspect something, so they were justified in stop and frisk. If they had, say, taken out their police batons and beat him down, THAT would be police brutality.

  2. Not improper procedure. he WAS dressed oddly, and they tried to get him to stop, though it looked like he was running. They stopped him, questioned, and again, frisked him.

  3. Lax agents? How does that work?

Of course, I’m basing this off my time in Criminal Justice class, which only covered New York State police procedures, so it’s not perfectly right… but I’m confident that they while they might get yelled at, and ridiculed by the other people in their branch, they won’t actually have any charges brought up against them.

The ATF agent is sitting on the guy’s fucking neck. That’s not a “frisk.” Did you even read the article? The picture is right there! Jesus.

…Fuck. I did read the article, but the picture was too small for me to amek out easily. I just thought he was standing over him.

They used laxatives.

yeah that picture = lawsuit win

Ok, a rebuttal on my part. The Brutality stands. The lax agents and improper procedues I meant on the campus police, as they knew, and didnt notify the ATF properly, plus they had jusrisdiction (technically, someone in their department had to call the ATF for them to be there. Belive me Jurisdiction is a BIG thing in the police world).

As opposed to that “you give me that juris-my-dick-tion crap” from The Matrix?

They didn’t notify the ATF of what? That a group was dressing up in costumes? Proper procedures involve notifying outside agents that a costume party is in progress?

Are you in college or been in college recently?
You do anything like that on campus, you more than likely have to file a permit. Which you can be sure that is filed with campus safety. We have to file permits just to have meetings of hall council in our own dorms (in public areas). To wave a sign around on campus, same thing. And I could keep going. Belive me, those campus cops knew.

The Wesley Foundation, a Methodist organization, hold its meetings in the Methodist student center which isn’t on campus. It’s across the road from North Campus.

My apologies.

Otherwise though, the point still stands.

“You’ve got a gun.”
“…No I haven’t.”
“Yes you have!”
“No I haven’t!”
“Oh yes you have!”
“Look, I came here for an argument!”

Yes you can. I mean … you just did.

I still don’t see how in any case how you can blame the campus police for lax agents and improper procedures. They weren’t the ones who pinned down the student. Do proper procedures also involve escorting the ATF agents everywhere?

With the jurisdiction point, yes. Its campus police’s area, they are suppost to assist in anything that goes on (eg arrests).

What arrest? The ATF detained him, turned him over to campus police, and he was released. What was the campus police supposed to have done differently?

Prevented him from being arrested in the first place. ATF, unless asked by campus police, had no right to arrest him in the first place.

But the ATF members were officers of the law, and they determined him to be acting in a way that was suspicious. Sure, arresting a kid coming from a costume party is retarded, but if you’re a member of law enforcement, and someone snooping around in black clothes doesn’t respond to your request to stop, you’d probably freak out too.

I’m not condoning the ATF arresting him in the way that they did, hell, that photograph is a total lawsuit winner. But its not hard to see where the agents were “coming from” when they decided to take him down.